Obama's actions lawful, top legal scholars say-

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  1. Bluesguy

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    No we don't know know that and in fact I would speculate his political advisers overrode the legal counsels as it appears happens often.

    You REALLY don't think this is about Obama wanting to do something right about immigration do you? This is a political stunt, one to create a constitutional crisis so he can challenge the Congress and usurp more power.
     
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    Because our constitution only provides for impeachment for Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors, of course.
     
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    "UC Law School statement: The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as "Senior Lecturer." From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School’s Senior Lecturers have high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined."
    http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/obama-a-constitutional-law-professor/
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    Which includes abuse of power and dereliction of duty. Misdemeanors as used in the Constitution does not mean a crime it means misbehavior in carrying out the duties of the office.

    See the Rodino Report

    Constitutional Grounds for Presidential Impeachment

    Report by the Staff of the Impeachment Inquiry

    U.S. Government Printing Office

    Washington : 1974

    From the Nixon impeachment.

    http://www.uhuh.com/Starr/rodino.htm

    For instance if Obama decided to go and tour the European golf links for the next two years and not show up for his meetings or to carry out his duties he could be impeached by the House and then the Senate would decide he he should be removed from office.
     
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    everything Obama did, Republicans agree with for the most part, it's political grandstanding on their part to attack him for doing his job, when Congress refuses to do theirs

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  6. Liquid Reigns

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    Which Republican think tanks would those be? The Democrat controlled Justice Department? :roflol: I don't care if they impeach him or not.
     
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    Interesting interview with Obama. Obama changed tax law by including illegals with this current EO.

    http://www.mrctv.org/blog/watch-president-obama-fumble-easy-question-precedent
     
  8. dujac

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    all you did was confirm jindal's assertion and when are you going to learn what constitutes proof?
     
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    Factcheck is a liberal propaganda organization parading as unbiased.

    Obama is a fraud, always has been. His party and the progressive Left is a con-job to ease communism into the mainstream here. Anyone who is so woefully uninformed as to not see the truth, deserves to lose their liberty, money, and property to this marauding bloated govt monster.
     
  10. Yosh Shmenge

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    I'm for making the system better. Do you think the immigration system will improve now that Obama has thumbed his nose at the constitution and couldn't even wait for the new Congress to be in session?
    Or do you think he is causing a stink for cheap political purposes? He's really gained nothing long term and indeed the Supreme Court looks very
    unfavorably at this president when he simply takes power not due to him (they unanimously knocked down his recess NLRB appointments).

    Well here's what I take away from yours...You have absolutely no counter for the fact that Obama is proactively handing out SS numbers and work permits like Halloween candy to the five million illegal immigrants who are, you admit it yourself, not legalized by any stretch by Obama's program and that's absolutely not in his authority to do.
    You wisely haven't tried to argue otherwise. Only that we have many illegals here on Visa violations (undoubtedly) but Barry Obama himself has never once raised that issue (true or not).
    His illegal spree has been pitched to the public as a way of keeping families together only and if he's concerned about the Visa problem he certainly hasn't let it show (not that it matters with regards to illegally handing out work permits, SS numbers etc. to people here illegally...no matter by what path they've taken to this point).

    You've grasped at straws in order to rationalize inexplicable illegalities and not surprisingly, come up with nothing but air.
    (Who is telling Obama he can issue affirmative privileges reserved only for citizens? He is begging the court to slap him down and for such a "smart" man he behaves rather stupidly)
     
  11. mjz

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    So impeach him.
    What did Congress do the next morning after this OUTRAGEOUS anti-Constituional move?
    They adjourned and went on early Thanksgiving break.
    Par for the course with the do nothing Congress.

    max
     
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    Missed it didn't ya.
    Write your congressmen. Impeach him. Defund the government. Sue him.
    If this is so eggregious prove it.
    Of course you'll have to wait until Congress returns from vacation.
    Be sure to catch them during the 8 days they are working in December.

    No one's waiting for the new Congress.
    Senate passed the bill easily. And so would the House if it were allowed for a vote.
    Deep down you understand that the legislation will pass under pressure from a very numerous and important constituency.
    Deal with it or don't.
    Either way we're moving forward with or without you.
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    here's what an incompetent fraud looks like

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    First this action will be dealt with. Then no deal will be struck until border security is assured. Period.
     
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    UN Security Council Resolution 1441 did not authorize war.
     
  16. Trinnity

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    I couldn't care less what you say in deflection about the R's. I'm not happy with the GOP establishment and GOP leadership one teensy bit.
    So save it.

    Obama is a terrible president. We just need to hope we can get through the next 2 years. He's had his busy wonkish bureaucrats writing regulations day after day and we'll soon be the most regulated country ever. No one likes their natural rights infringed or having their life micromanaged.

    People who love big gov are traitors to themselves (not to mention lacking in wisdom and common sense) because they think by controlling others, things will be the way they would like. It never works out that way, we just all get screwed.
     
  17. dujac

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    yet you take up their bankrupt arguments

    what rights of yours have been infringed upon and how has you life been micromanaged?

    really, i want to know

    show me somebody in this thread that says they love big government


    that's definitely the gop
     
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    Your posts are just the same ol lying and trolling as always. I've been reading your flamebaiting-for-sport for several years now. Why would I possibly care one bit about your "opinion" on anything? I don't. People like you are responsible for the two term disaster we're suffering under now. Wait til 16. The dems are being exposed for the race-bating, freedom killing closet commies they really are. We've had enough of it and we're pushing them back. Wait and see. The mid-terms were just the start.
     
  19. dujac

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    how did i know you wouldn't be able to answer my question?


    "what rights of yours have been infringed upon and how has you life been micromanaged?"
     
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    Border security is just the red herring to keep you on the hook.
    max
     
  21. dujac

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    which fits right in with the gop's reluctance to address the issue
     
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    Only by bending reality to the extremes can the extremists exist. Pay the far right no attention. They do not reside in reality.
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    Exactly. The reason is not border security.
    Never was.
    It xenophobia. And the fear of different.
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