Ohio bill orders doctors to ‘reimplant ectopic pregnancy’ or face 'abortion murder' charges

If a fetus is not a person a fetus can never become a person except in whimsical legal constructs.

 

Um, O.K.

 

You're not having a conversation. You weren't rationalizing your position and you refuse to listen to anyone try and rationalize theirs.

I knew when you talked about avoiding conversation you are talking about conversation.

I tend to avoid this type of bickering it's pointless.

 

People absolutely refuse to listen to any rationalization that doesn't affirm their worldview.

I wonder if it's a defensive mechanism.

 

Sorry, wrong, it's none of his business unless she decides it is.

Why is the burden always on the woman? So sick of that. You guys talk big about personal responsibility, but on this issue, what you mostly seem to want is control, even if you have to slut-shame women to get it. Shame on you. And what would you men do if women suddenly decided that since it's our burden, we'll just not have sex with any of you, ever again? Don't make me laugh ... I don't want to tear my stitches.

"If her decision results and financial culpability of another person it is someone else's business." Not until she decides, and even then, if she doesn't want money or anything else from you, she is under no obligation to tell you anything.

 

you can tell me that I'm wrong until time stops but if you don't rationalize your position it doesn't matter what you say.

because she is the one that makes decisions if you want to make decisions you carry the burdens.

I always think it's hilarious when people try to attribute motive. I'm a homosexual man I don't have sex with women tell I couldn't control this if I wanted to.

as far as slut-shaming goes and I see that mostly done by women, chauvinistic controlling men love sluts.

me personally I would probably continue having a sexual relationship with my husband. As far as heterosexual men they would probably find some other women that what's to have sex and have sex with them. I doubt you could ever get anything effectively done with a sex strike.

She can decide when she wants money?

 

Simply hopeless.

I'm going back to my original comment: when men can get pregnant, only then will their opinions on abortion have any merit.

 

Legally a fetus isn't a human, therefore abortion is not murder. As I said murder is a legal term. I am making no judgement here, just stating a fact. There is no need to be hostile.

 

Maybe it's because your argument is poor

You need to tell that to Ohio seems they do have merit regardless of your conditions.

 

The argument is that the law is wrong for saying it's not human.

Not in all context, it can mean killing with no reason.

You are making a semantics argument.

 

I was not saying anyone was right or wrong, I was just stating the law.

Feel free to prove me wrong.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/murder

 

Murder isn't only a legal term.

 

People use the term murder to mean a lot of things that aren't crimes.

 

If they aren't talking about the killing of a person then they are technically using the term wrong.

 

Says who?

 

When murder is used to describe killing it only applies to people. Webster's says so.

 

Dictionaries are descriptive not prescriptive.

 

LOL! Great catch, thanks ...

 

Especially when one has no answers and can't back up anything they post ….

 

Here's a question not to answer

Why do you expect others to answer your questions?

 

I wondered that about people who can't answer questions about their stance..

 

Yup, so many of their arguments not only have no merit but they can't seem to back it up when anyone questions it.....

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
So much safer that way

Uh, you expect me to answer your questions ???



How very weird.....strange to think that way......

 

I guess it's safer for you not to.

 

Uh, duh, I'M the one who DOES answer questions.....


Now, care to address the topic which isn't me...