Okay Theists....Prove GOD exists.

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  1. Maxwell

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    I used to believe that same thing when I was dumb.
     
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    Evolution is not about accident. If mutations happens randomly, natural selection is not about chance.

    Your parents met because a lot of random events appeared, but you were not born by "accident".
     
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    Probably from the parents.
     
  4. Maxwell

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    Okay. Can you define "natural selection" and how it occurs?
     
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    Physical constraints in reality favor certain adaptations over others. Those with more favorable adaptations to those constraints are more
    Likely to survive and pass on those adaptation to their offspring.
     
  6. jrr777

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    Well, I wonder what you do with your spare time. Simpsons!!!! No wonder your one of no faith.
     
  7. jrr777

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    It's amazing you think I don't!!!!
     
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  8. tecoyah

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    Okay....what am I thinking?
     
  9. jrr777

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    Are you referencing my belief in the earth being flat? Is that an area you want to step into again. Are you steering the conversation away? The reality known by millions huh. No, that's a fantasy shared by millions. It's absolutely obvious the deepest you have ever been to space, is your imagination. And you know what, it will continue to be just an imagination for you. Hollywood did a miraculous and unrecoverable job on you, and millions of others. Talk about mind control, psychological warfare, enslavement without chains, on a grand scale. Satan come down to deceive the whole earth. And just on the shape of it, he did.

    Why would they lie to us.........Simply put, they lie to us to make us believe in what is not, so we never actually know what is. -Jake Gibson-

    CIA director William Casey-
    "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is a lie."?
     
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    you are way off base there, the Creator and Judge has to be alive to be the Creator and Judge of all things, because a will is required to act decisively, and seek the fulfillment of that will, and again, life isn't from that which has no life, and the elements of the universe have no life therein, yet life is manifest in the universe.

    anyways, the truth of the matter isn't known by selective evidence. the truth is known by what is there, and in this case, life is also there.
     
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    How I don't have a f()()()ing clue what your thinking.
     
  12. jrr777

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    The creator "God" is alive, he is life, he is everything, and there is nothing without Him.
     
  13. tecoyah

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    Nothing you just stated nullifies anything I did.
     
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    Again----
    If it requires intelligence to determine a design/creation, then it is obvious the design/creation is of intelligence.

    What about that do you not understand, or what about that statement is not true?
     
  15. tecoyah

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    Actually I was thinking about fudge brownies since my wife is making some...with Salted Caramel. It would seem you aren't as omnipotent as you believe.
     
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    .......IF.....
     
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    That's just picking at my lack of wording. "IF" could be replaced with "Since", or "seems how" or "It is known".

    It is known that to determine a design/creation intelligence is required, thus it is obvious the design/creation is of intelligence.

    Again, same questions?
     
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    Omnipotent enough to know I want some of those brownies.
     
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    Freeze some water or grab a snowflake...look at them under a microscope.

    Do you attribute the elaborate design of the crystalline structure to intelligence?
     
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    Of course, the entire system required to even get the snowflake is needed. And that entire system is of intelligence.
     
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    As do I....they smell damn good.
     
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    Did she make them with hemp oil?
     
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    Thus do we disagree...everything that exists can be attributed to your God in your mind, Science included. Basically you have created a scenario that perpetuates your own belief system and eliminates all possibility that could deny your pre-conceived and chosen reality.
     
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    Nope....we avoid such things anymore.
     
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    [QUOTE Basically you have created a scenario that perpetuates your own belief system and eliminates all possibility that could deny your pre-conceived and chosen reality.[/QUOTE]

    You realize you just described what you do in striking detail right?

    Error on quote, my apologies.
     
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