One of the biggest lies in the current political divide

What violations are they refusing to prosecute, and are other DAs prosecuting them?

 

I love how you do the evasion dance. You ignore the obvious so I will edify you again

1) A Democrat says we have to prevent honest Americans-ones without records and who have never misused a firearm from owning a certain type of weapon

2) the reason given is that the weapon he wants to ban is used in a few murders each year-less than murders committed by knives and beatings

3) He claims those are the only guns he wants to ban-a bunch of his major political allies have called for confiscating that type of firearm that are in private hands

4) yet if the REAL reason for the ban is to prevent criminals from obtaining the firearms, then logical consistency requires the politician to want to ban the firearms that are used in in far more crimes than the one he currently wants to ban. If he denies this, then he is lying about his motivation for the initial ban. If he admits it-he's lying from the start.

Either way if you want to ban AR 15s, but deny you are interested in banning other guns, you are either a liar as to your motivations or your goals

 

Do some research. Violent criminals are not being prosecuted for 18 USC 922 violations or using firearms in a crime of violence

 

that is true for several reasons

1) lefties tend to coddle violent criminals-for several reasons including the fact that the criminal lobby tends to be a constituency and because some lefties claim criminals are merely victims of an unjust legal system and economy
2) lefties often try to pretend they are doing something about crime by pushing silly gun laws that do nothing to impede criminals but harass the political opponents of criminal-coddling lefties
3) by failing to prosecute criminals, lefties can claim more gun control is needed to deal with rising crime (that comes from a failure to target real criminals)

 

I am asking YOU to back up your claims, and you can't, so its not me who is evading.

Either you have the quotes, or you don't, and clearly you do not.

Yes, they are. What are you talking about?

There are ways to discuss things without constantly making stuff up.

 

You apparently are unable to understand logical deduction

do you deny that Biden and others who want to ban AR 15s are gun banners?

 

All of this leads to the question: Why hassle and prosecute the people who own guns but not the people who commit crimes with them?

 

I didn't ask you to do a chicken dance, I asked for quotes.

I own quite a few guns but have never been prosecuted for it. Have you? Prisons, in the other hand, are full of people who committed crimes and were locked up for it.

 

from who-you or the scumbag politicians who want to ban AR 15s. are you denying that Biden wants to ban AR 15s. Are you denying that Beta O'Dork called for confiscation

 

because Democrats want to harass political enemies-and pro gun advocates have been their enemies ever since Democrats-in the 1960s, tried to cover up their soft on crime issues by claiming gun control was crime control.

 

Quit ,moving the goal posts. The argument here is that Biden and Clinton want to confiscate all guns, which is simply not true.

Heck, - feel free to believe anything you want and make up any lie you want.

They're coming for you man. You better retreat to the mountains.

 

You again are missing the obvious. They want to currently confiscate SOME GUNS. if they are honest, they have to want to confiscate many more.

 

Here is the opening post. Note that I did not say gun banners currently want to confiscate all guns. What I am saying is they are dishonest in claiming they are OK with you owning firearms currently, that they don't think you should be able to buy again.. And since it is obvious they don't think it is OK for you to own those weapons now, IF THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO DO SO, they would confiscate them.

 

Whatever you say. You are free to live in perpetual fear of someone coming for your gun, but I don't worry about it. I have not have a single one confiscated, even thought people like you have been telling be its going to happen any day now. As a matter of fact, the opposite if happening, - gun laws are loosening.

So you invented this imaginary scenario and then you accuse them of being dishonest because the reality doesn't line up with it. Go figure.

 

so you think you should just pretend there is nothing to worry about when the leader of one of the two major parties is all in favor of banning the most commonly owned rifle in the USA. I realize it is tough to be an apologist for the Democrat party on gun issues, while pretending to support gun ownership. It's a tough position to hold

 

I don't have to pretend, -I simply do worry about it.

I don't recall defending their gun policies, so you'll have to quote that one. Oh, that's right, - you can't. You failed to back up your claims, so please don't turn that on me. Its 100% on you. Stop making stuff up and people won't expose you like that.

 

Most of your posts on gun issues are passive aggressive responses to those who point out the Democrat party's disdain for lawful gun ownership

 

You made crap up and I asked you to back up it, and now you are trying to make it about me.

I am a gun owner, and pro 2A, so you don't get to tell me what my views are. Don't expect me to support your attempts to misrepresent people. if I did, I'd be lying myself. Just be honest with your claims.

PS, I don't think you know what passive aggressive means.

 

you constantly try to downplay the fact that the Democrat party is hateful of lawful gun owners and ownership. I haven't made anything up. You cannot even attempt to rebut my logically sound deductions that if someone doesn't think you should be able to buy something tomorrow, they sure as hell don't support you owning it to day

 

I just don't agree when people misrepresent issues, or other people. You had you chance to back up your claims and you were not able to, so there is nothing more to say.

 

I guess you are unable to understand that dishonest politicians are not going to admit they are lying so you have to show why they are dishonest. I have but you seem to be unable to deal with the fact that it is dishonest for someone to say you shouldn't be able to ever buy an AR 15 but he has no issues keeping the one you own.

Why are you so incapable of actually addressing that point?

 

The problem is that I have been hearing cry wolf for decades. NRA used to call me at least once per month to tell me they needed more money because things were worse ever before. Every month was the worst ever, and in the end I told them to cancel my membership. That was Obama era. So things are going in the opposite direction (looser gun laws) and I am supposed to believe they are coming for my guns. Now we have Dems in full control and guess what......- no one came for my guns. They are going to lose the House, and maybe Senate, and I'm still supposed to shake in fear of them coming for my guns. No, - I refuse to live in fear.

 

It's true. Good suits don't stay in style forever. Gotta fund the new ones.

They want your gun rights first, and depending upon the Republicans to be smart enough to win elections is a worse strategy than "hope".

 

He is unable to understand that one more Democrat on the Supreme court during Heller would have meant a massive increase in anti gun legislation. Of course, I think we both know he is going for that to happen despite his pretending it is not possible

 

Supreme Court does not write legislation, and we don't have one more Dem in SC, we have the most partisan SC ever with Republican 6-3 majority.