Only potheads are pro-legalization of weed

Discussion in 'Civil Liberties' started by markt2530, Oct 18, 2014.

  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    You are the one footing the bill however.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Worth every penny. When I drive by a pulled over car with the trunk open and a bunch of failures sitting there handcuffed I give a toot and a thumbs up.
     
  3. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    So you would rather house and clothe them while prisons are so over crowded that they let murderers and rapists out. But by god they lock up those people that do something that you don't like.

    After all, them smoking pot has less effect on you than people being drunk.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes. I prefer we enforce our laws. I thought I made that clear already.
    What leftist judges do is out of my control. I don't care if pot smoking has less or more effect on me than drunk people.
    Yeah no one has ever heard of people smoking pot and drinking at the same time. It never happens.
     
  5. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Even if they are stupid and cause way more crime than they prevent? Why?


    You are actually being a leftist by supporting nonsense laws against things you don't like. It certainly isn't a conservative position.

    So laws not making any sense doesn't matter in the least to you? Yeah you are a Barak Obama democrat if I have ever seen one.
    This just further says that drinking is more of a problem. And as a traffic officer, I have seen way more fatalities and injuries from drunk driving over "stoned driving" in fact, I haven't seen a single stoned driving accident.

    I wonder why that is?
     
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    I haven't seen word salad like this since the last pothead I talked to tried to explain how the sun works to me. And you say youre a traffic officer? Who hasn't been drug tested is this correct?
     
  7. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    So you aren't going to defend your statements and you are going to make this about me?

    Must mean that you know your position is ridiculous.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No Im not. Ive already made myself very clear on the issues, then you keep asking me the same question. Do you have any other questions or are we at the insult stage now where you think I actually care what you think? Youre not going to tell me to not walk fast in the crosswalk next are you?
    Lets see, if I park my car incorrectly should my car be towed or do you think that law is silly?
     
  9. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I am just trying to understand why somebody would want to keep something illegal when there is no reason to do so. It's odd.
    I haven't made any insults. And if you don't care about discussion why in the hell are you on a discussion forum?

    What?


    Yes your car should be towed. No that law is necessary.
     
  10. AlphaOmega

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    Yes thanks so much. Exactly what I was looking for.
    Your stance...Drug laws are dumb even though potheads kill people in their drug induced driving rampages
    but BUT
    your car tires 7 inches from the curb instead of 6 well......hrumph that's not silly at all, impound that car!
    Thanks, I take it traffic cop really meant meter maid right?
     
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    The occurrence of potheads killing people in traffic accidents is extremely low compared to people talking on the cell phone causing accidents. Or people that are drunk causing accidents. Yet I don't see you advocating prohibition of cell phone ownership, or consumption or possession of alcohol. Beside that, how many fatalities have been directly caused by pot?

    All you do is pay a parking ticket and get your car or of impound. You aren't getting locked up for it. And if we didn't control parking nobody would be able to get anywhere.
    I don't work in a jurisdiction that has parking meters. Traffic cop, means that I right citations for traffic violations, that does include parking violations. And I also don't think parking enforcement is a negative thing in jurisdictions that need those laws enforced.

    But I would support all drug crimes being turned into a class "C" misdemeanor. Really my issue is with these folks filling up our jails, sending economy to cartels, and keeping bloated government agencies afloat.
     
  12. Polydectes

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    As a simple matter if fact traffic related fatalities have been dropping in Colorado since they no longer criminalize pot smoking. So your position seems to bebased on a rather alarmist position.
     
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    Ive never sat on a beach and had someones cell phone enter my lungs. Nor their alcohol. Also, I have been crystal clear on this issue, I would have no problem with drugs if people could do it responsibly and not affect others. As weve seen, even when its illegal they still do it in a manner where I have to be exposed to it when I don't want to be. Your rights stop the second your bad habit crosses into my rights.
    Now, if Im at a meter and the meter maid is there and Im 3 seconds late putting money in the meter should I get a 50 dollar ticket?
     
  14. Polydectes

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    But to think it doesn't effect you is absurd.

    Except of course alcohol. You are clear yet you are inconsistent

    Not really.

    Yet you again are inconsistent when it comes to drugs.
    If it were me and you caught me before I wrote the ticket, I'd let you go.
     
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    republicans really hate that fact....
     
  16. Polydectes

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    I am a registered republican. I just don't feel that the truth and reality needs to be altered. But than again I am more if a gold water conservative.
     
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    I should of said far right republicans, as many moderate republicans support the peoples freedom to possess and grow Marijuana

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    Strawman, Alcohol is already legal, and as a result there is nothing I can do about it. As I stated cell phones don't enter my lungs nor alcohol against my will which coincides with my stance that you are free to do whatever you want until it affects me. However you just pointed out that drugs DO affect people. So which is it, do they or don't they? And has anyone told you how multi-quoting every single sentence is extremely irritating?
     
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    actually you didn't point out anything you made a false claim.

    course you added an ad hominem.
     
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    So you don't consume sugar?
     
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    As we can see pot shrinks your brain. I said You pointed out. I also said I stated.
    I swear this is the last time I attempt debate with chongers.

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    As we can see pot shrinks your brain. I said You pointed out. I also said I stated.
    I swear this is the last time I attempt debate with chongers.
     
  22. Polydectes

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    This is sentence fragments and false accusations.

    I have no clue what "chongers" means, but making ridiculous comments and ad hominem isn't a debate. So in order for there to be a last time there needs to be a first time.

    But anyway, back to the op. It was stated that only potheads want pot legalized, that isn't true I don't use pot and I think it should be legalized.

    As far as it has gone nobody can really make a sound argument for continuing prohibition.
     
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    I just did you just refuse to accept it. I don't want pot in my lungs AT ALL. If you can figure out how people can do that in public without it affecting me, then feel free to have your pot. Until then your argument is lost. Your rights to do drugs stop the second they over reach my rights not to have drugs enter my body. This is the point where you tell me to just move then and unknowingly lose the argument like everyone before you without knowing why.
     
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    That isn't a sound argument. Just stay away.

    we don't allow it in public, and you stay away from them. Now you are all gung ho about legalization right?

    So seeing above my argument is won.
    Your right to nothave drugs enter your body stop at the point you enter a designated area.

    I didn't tell you to move. Just do what you do now. Don't hang around with stoners and you'll be good.
     
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    You saying I don't have a sound argument isn't going to make it that way even if you say it 50 more times. Its a sound argument because you have no rebuttal to it other than it isn't a sound argument and you then go on to make strawmans in order to justify your argument.

    Does someone have a right to expose me or children to drugs against my or their will in a public area? Yes or No.
     

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