Only potheads are pro-legalization of weed

Discussion in 'Civil Liberties' started by markt2530, Oct 18, 2014.

  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I know, the fact that it isn't sound really makes my saying so unnecessary.

    It's schizophrenic, it bounces around from one false claim to the next.

    Yes, they do it all the time. Cigarettes, alcohol, caffeine. I bet you have used at least two of those in front of your children, I bet you have permitted your children to imbibe one of those drugs.
     
  2. AlphaOmega

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    Yes cigarettes are a great example of why pot shouldn't be legalized. Thanks for reminding us that since they are legal people are selfish enough to expose us to their failures against our will.
    Also for simply the last time. Caffeine and alcohol don't enter someones lungs when they don't want it to. If you are sitting next to someone drinking a beer or coffee, the drug will never enter your body unless you drink it yourself. What part of that is difficult for you? Please make another strawman so I cant put you on ignore.
    Ill say it one last time s..lowww..ly for you. You ....are .....free..... to..... do.... drugs..... all..... you..... want.... as..... long.... as.....they.... don't.... affect.... me.
    Someone drinking caffeine will never affect anything I do so why would I care?
    Someone drinking alcohol will never affect anything I do unless they drink and drive and kill someone, in which case that is against the law and the drunk will go to prison. Nothing I can do about that its already legal.
    Cigarettes do affect me however they are also legal so there is nothing I can do about that except tell the self poisoners to not do it near me which gets annoying.
    Pot is currently illegal, and that makes it much easier to keep the self poisoners away from people like me who are smart enough to not want their lungs damaged.
    Talk about Schizo?
    YOU THINK, keeping pot illegal given the above is a silly law that shouldn't be enforced while giving people tickets for their tires being one inch further from the curb than your meter maid book says they should be. Shall we run down the silly parking laws you don't think are silly?
     
  3. Arxael

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    I don't smoke and I think it should be legalized. There is no reason with tobacco and alcohol being legal that marijuana shouldn't also be legal.

    Your generalizations are quite amusing although erroneous.
     
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    I think any government is loosing money the more things they make illegal they should control. Gambling, prostitution, drugs and other services or products have a huge market, whether they are legal or not. So someone will provide those. I think that it makes more sense for the government to offer these services, regulate and control them, in order to make them as safe as they can be. I know gambling is illegal in many states in the US and so to my knowledge is prostitution, and I don't understand why. The first brings in a lot of revenue for any city who has a casino, and the second makes sure that people working in these businesses are doing so voluntary and have regular medical checks.

    Drugs I think is really the next thing they should legalize in the EU and all over the US. Although I have never used drugs before in my life and I won't once they're legal, I just see the revenue the government could make out of this business to lover all our debt. To top it off, the government by controlling it, could make sure that the drugs on the market are less lethal by regulation and they could know all the customers.

    I think it's the same with anything the government makes illegal, which cannot be prevented. The more things they make illegal the bigger organized crime is, because somebody will provide...
     
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    I always love the ironclad presumption that if we make something illegal, why, nobody will do it. Yet the $trillions we have spent trying to eradicate drug usage hasn't made so much as a ripple in American consumption, and legalization doesn't increase usage either. Those who wish to use illegal drugs, do so easily. The US has now imprisoned a higher percentage of their population than any nation ever, anywhere. Half of that prison population is there for drug violations (or petty crime to get money for drugs), and THAT doesn't slow down consumption either. It just wrecks lives.

    Then of course there's a reason why the major drug cartels are big campaign contributors to the strongest anti-drug politicians - it's those laws that keep profit margins astronomical. Our laws and feckless attempts to enforce them amount to BIG subsidies to organized crime.
     
  6. Polydectes

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    By that backward logic only drunks are against prohibition of alcohol.
     
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    I don't smoke pot or do any drugs. I believe all drugs should be legal. It's no ones business what you put into your body, and quite frankly this "war on drugs" has done more harm than good and is certainly responsible for more murder than death due to overdoses.

    It's an epic fallacy that if you legalize or decriminalize a substance everyone and their mother are going to go out and do it.
     
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    Who gives a (*)(*)(*)(*)?

    Because you're drug free means other people can't smoke pot?

    Guess what? outside of beer I'm drug free too. You know what tho? I mind my own (*)(*)(*)(*)ing business.
     
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    How about only criminals are against the death penalty or only terrorists are against NSA spying or only sinners are against the Bible? The sad thing is I think I've seen all of these arguments on this forum.
     
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    The real question is do you have the right to expose your own children to these substances?

    If you're opposed to say someone smoking a cigarette then you can move your ass somewhere where someone isn't smoking. It's called being respectful.

    Also, only (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s would smoke weed in public, and if weed were legal it should be banned from public consumption like alcohol unless it's a pot bar or pot event.

    The world doesn't revolve around you.
     
  11. Polydectes

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    They are stupid and pointless. Yes I imagine these arguments are often common. But completely ineffective at persuasion.
     
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    Why cant the person poisoning himself move his ass somewhere else since he is the one with the bad habit? Its called ....what was it you said...being respectful. Why should people not dumb enough to dose themselves with poison be inconvenienced by the dumbasses who are? Or does the world revolve around you?
     
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    It's not the individuals responsibility to make you feel comfortable. You're the extremist that has the problem - not the person smoking.

    Being respectful is also tolerating ideas you don't like.
     
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    WRONG!, the selfish person forcing their bad habit on others is the extremist. Obviously you must be a smoker right? Of course.
     
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    Ahem. That would be me.
     
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    I would think that smoking legal marijuana on a beach would come under the same jurisdiction as smoking cigarettes.
     
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    I don't smoke pot but I smoke cigarettes, and if I was outside having a smoke and you just wondered out of a building and demanded that I move you would have a really big (*)(*)(*)(*)ing problem.

    Someone tried that nonsense with me once and I can guarantee he will never try it again with anyone else.

    I don't take too kindly to people getting into my business and I expect people to mind their own.

    Besides, what the hell you think is going to happen when you confront someone about smoking?
     
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    i can't wait until i can afford a vaporizer.
     
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    So you are for crack being legal? Pot, I understand pot, see its benefits, think alcohol is far more dangerous... but legalize crack?
     
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    Why criminalize drugs? Wouldn't it be better for multibillion dollar pharmaceuticals to employ multimillion dollar laboratories to discover better products at potentially lower cost, and with an FDA label on it.

    Prohibition is repugnant to our Commerce Clause and only engenders unregulated black markets.
     
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    Because some drugs are very harmful to individuals and society in general. Offer me a bennifit of crack because all I see is its harm.
     
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    I'm for decriminalizing cocaine yes.

    You do know cocaine, heroin, pot and the rest of all these "bad drugs" were legal 100 years ago right?

    Do you think if just because those drugs were decriminalized people would just run out and feel the need to get high? would you?

    Of course not and that wont happen.

    You do realize all this gang violence and cartel violence is over drugs right? legalize drugs and gangs and cartels will have nothing to fight over... Of course they will always find reasons to kill one another but drugs are the main reason they kill one another. It's not because they're high on drugs either, they kill one another over who gets to sell and supply drugs.

    That's another thing - drugs are easy to get, the fact they're illegal is basically meaningless considering anyone can go to the ghetto and get whatever drug they want.
     
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    Isn't the moral turpitude of bearing false witness to our own laws, worse?
     
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    Interesting point as I do agree with the gang and cartel argument, but what positive comes from legalizing a harmful drug like crack? Sure we may take the underworld element out of the equation, but perhaps to the detriment of society by allowing such deadly drugs to be sold freely. Crack is far removed from pot. Crack is IMO just too dangerous to legally allow.
     
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    Isn't that a form of communism or socialism? Where is the consent agreement for any policies, public, from the right?
     

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