Oops, What Goes In Bavaria? Crosses Will Now Be Hung Everywhere.

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  1. Jeannette

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    The Crosses are symbolic of the Bavarian religious heritage and their sense of identity. This goes against the one world order and the globalist agenda which is the elimination of self identity - something reminiscent of the 'internationalism' of the Soviet Union. I see it as a means of enslavement, since ones identity is paramount to their sense of being. This is why the Soviet Union was considered by many to be one large prison.

    Of course one doesn't know the feelings of individual Bavarians and how nationalistic they might be. I think though it's more to combat globalism, than the Muslims themselves who are merely pawns in the game.
     
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    You are not disputing anything I wrote.
     
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    That sounds evolutionary by necessity.
     
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    Bavarians are among the most pro-globalist people in the world.
     
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    If they are, then do they know what it entails? But then again with Pope Francis who knows what goes?
     
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    Nobody does. But Bavarians are very much a "can't we all just get along" kind of people.
     
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    If you would call that evolutionary, there's no reason we can't evolve outside of superstition
     
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    If you're referring to the decline of Christianity as a cultural driving force, that's more than obvious. New Englanders are still Puritanical, they're just not Puritanical Christians.

    If you're making a more general epistemological point, I completely disagree.
     
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    Both, actually. The death of god is far more interesting as a problem in ethics than theology, as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    I find it more interesting as a problem in history. I have no interest in theology except as it pertains to history and philosophy, and have lost all faith in my ability to answer ethical questions in an interesting manner.

    To each their own, I guess.
     
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    Strange that so many Americans on this board don't follow what you're saying and not only seem to care but also seem to know, even better than people who live in said place. And strange that you personally seem to be able to speak for more than 320 mill Americans. I don't find that convincing at all. Yanks on this forum have been predicting civil wars in Europe for years. I know that certain people obviously need this narrative like the air they breathe but it's getting old and boring.
     
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    Today, perhaps, but educated people increasing eschew organized religion.
     
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    Bavaria is a freak show in Germany. It is extremly catholic.
     
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    Educated people are religious all the time. Throughout the Islamic world the best educated people are likely to be highly religious.

    New England, even when Puritanical, was the most educated region in the entire world.

    Bavaria, even with high rates of education, is highly religious.
     
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    Oh, geez--tack yourself on a cross. Poor, suffering Christians.

    All of you types with your religious claptrap should give it a rest. Dressing to show an Imaginary Friend you're being modest is idiotic. Praying in public to an Imaginary Friend is just as stupid. Please stop.
    Free to hold Christian services, but not free to do anything else.
     
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    Is that good? Should America do the same?
     
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    I would comment that it's a bit strange for "Russian" news to give a care about what a state official in Bavaria gets up to, but then it's clear to me that Russian propaganda is constantly trying to subvert western nations through conservative christianity in particular, basically trying to use Christianity to turn conservatives against the government and the rest of their society as a whole. They want to stir up civil unrest and internal division any way they can, and religion is a great way to do that. People tend to react very strongly, both in favor and against.
     
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    You know eastern Germany is the most atheist place on this planet. Does this collide with your disrespect against our far right agenda?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/sep/22/atheism-east-germany-godless-place
     
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    It is to protect all groups from state persecution. The founding fathers did not want here what existed in Europe at the time, where one brand of religion was tied to the state and led to persecution for others. Such persecution was one of the reasons people came to the Americas in the first place. So, you're half right when you say that it is meant to protect religious faiths from state persecution; the half you leave out is that it's protecting them from persecution by those subscribing to a state religion. Of course, that means protecting non-religious people as well. Ours is meant to be an enlightened system of government that does not allow for any kind of theocracy, but people like you are constantly trying to undermine that.
     
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    Americans tend to universalize our politics around the world.

    That (tepidly) "pro-migrant" Bavaria is highly Catholic while rabidly anti-migrant East Germany is extremely atheistic subverts our expectations.

    Even more subversive is the relationship between far-left and far-right in Europe. You tell everyone that you have voted AfD, but if you told me in a few years that you voted Communist I wouldn't bat an eye.
     
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    Well AfD now in this year gained massive momentum in Bavaria as well.

    Classical politics dont represent today politics anymore.

    AfD is far right? The far left in Germany has similar approach.

    The leader of the far left Sara Wagenknecht is strictly against migrants and for mass deportations
     
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    Yep.

    I think that the AfD is doomed to failure, there's just no way that most Germans are going to accept "far-right" politics.

    I expect Germany to take a hard-left turn, with the SPD either radicalizing or falling by the wayside.
     
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    Then they can prohibit the call to prayer, ban the wearing of yarmulkes and the hijab, and tear down the in-your-face minarets. Bavaria is an ancient European city with Christianity being the major religion. Too bad if the Jews and muslims don't like looking at their Christian symbolism. Here's some symbolism for you:
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    The AfD is the most important party we have right now. It breaks up the old encrusted system and with this saves Germany.

    Thats what AfD is important for. The AfD is the child of failed liberal politics. And the AfD function as program to correct those mistakes. You cant imagine how good it feels to have a party that breaks the political correctnes cartel.

    SPD is dead and has no future. The AfD replaces them more and more. What i think is, that AfD will lean left in a few years but keep its strict anti migration positions.
     
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    "but keep its strict anti migration positions.
     

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