OSMANLI is back

* Another Russian-American agent been caught in conflict area by Osmanli Security Forces.

 

* Israel apologized to Osmanli State because of Mavi Marmara event.

 

You're welcome. Please, don't reply to posts as you did here, it's very bothersome to reply to it. Instead, do as I've done with this post. Simply divide the post you're replying to. You do it by like this:

[åQUOTE] blablabla the quoted text blabla [/QUOTEå]

Except you don't write the å's. I had to use those to show you.

I'm not ignoring those that just want to live in peace, and are okay with living in Turkey. But you can't ignore those who don't, those who want their won state.

I don't claim to speak for kurds. By your logic aren't you speaking on behalf of kurds now? Sure there are millions who don't want independence, but how many millions are there that do want independence?

State and empire are neither opposites nor mutually exclusive. The ottoman empire was both an empire and a state. Language, alphabet, eduation, dress, economics etc. doesn't matter squat.

I find it funny I know more of Turkish history than a turk does. It's not the first time though. How could the turkish congress vote to abolish the sultanate if it wasn't the same state? It doesn't make sense. If Turkey was created out of nothing as a new state they wouldn't have had to vote to abolish the monarchy of another state.

it's called a civil war. What happens in civil wars such as the turkish one, is that there are two or more parties which claim to be the legitimate government. But the point is that they are fighting eachother over who is the rightful government of their state. In this case, the state of Ottoman empire/Turkey. it's the same state, it's continous. If it was two separate states it would per definition not be a civil war would it? A civil war is a war within a state. That it took the republicans a while to win doesn't matter. The turkish nationalists were revolutionaries, which means they were acting within a state trying to overthrow the current government.

Are you saying that the two are incompatible? Yes Turkey is a republic now, but it has been an empire. Sweden used to be an absolute monarchy, but it's democratic now.

Then I suppose it was sick to kill the millions turkey killed as well. However, the point is that it was necessary to stabilise the countries. It's not pretty, but homogeneity is much more stable than a patchwork of minorities. It just is.

And yet Turkey refuses to acknowledge the armenian genocide. I'm not convinced.

kardesh bleaze.

 

* At least 4 bombing attack prevented in last two weeks in Alania town of Osmanli State which is known as most popular place for Russians tourists.

 

* Osmanli troops entered Jarabulus/Syria which is another important region for oil and natural gas pipelines.

 

* Osmanli Army is going to clean the region between Azaz-Jarabulus from ISIS - PKK - Russian terrorists to create a safe zone.

 

* Osmanli State wants Israel to recognize Palestine. Israel will recognize Palestine.

 

All this topic is a troll.

Please do not take this as serious.

As a Turkish citizen, I am proud of being a citizen of modern Republic of Turkiye.
Ottoman Empire is history.
Like Roman Empire. Or British Empire.

Besides, Turkiye has been established onto the ruins of Ottoman Empire which has been ruled very badly in its last 300 years. We do need Ottoman Empire to be back as we are happy to live in our beatiful ,secular, democratical country-TURKIYE.

Don't feed the troll please.

 

I am very sorry.I made a serious typing mistake.
I wanted to write We don't need Ottoman Empire to be back as we are happy to live in our beatiful ,secular, democratical country-TURKIYE.

 

Why are you trying to distance yourself from the Ottoman Empire? It's pretty much the only thing you turks have to be proud over, and you people are saying turkey has nothing to do with it. Why would you want to deny the great history of the ottomans? It was one of the great empires of the world. be proud instead.

 

It shows how racist and ignorant you are.
You do not know anything regarding the history,culture,impact of Turks to the world.
And here is not the place to teach them to you.

 

You dont know Kemalists. They are programmed to see themselves inferior by their British agent Ataturk.

 

Wooohoooooo.
That is good to have someone like you here at this forum Mineva.
May be by this way these anti-Turkish people at this forum might realize that Turkish people are the combination of many different ideological people.

Calling Ataturk a British agent can only be the arguement of
a)Erdogan supporters.
b)idiots
c)Both
d)Fettullah Gulen supporters
e)All of them

 

Kemalists were kissing European ass for 1-2 billion euro borrow money, since 12 years ago. Today Turkiye spend tens of billions only for donations and they call others "idiot". We can see the real "idiots".

 

I've got you Mineva.
Erdogan has got a friend here.

 

Are you aware of it you are only %20 of Turkish people and oppressing %50 of Turkish people.

 

You are never 50%. Even at the last elections AKP got 48% while more than 13% of people did not vote.
And AKP received 10 points from MHP and HDP (ethnic Kurdish party).


Besides, I am not sure what kind of 50% are you?
The ones who want Sheria?
The ones who are nationalist but can not get what they expect from MHP(Nationalist Movement Party)?
The ones who are radical Islamic Kurds?
The ones who are rich thieves which have best of the best relations with the government?
The ones who are rich and do not want their business activities to be effected from distabilization at the markets?
The ones who are modern but who allways think about their bank accounts?

There is also another difference between people like me and you.
We are never afraid of Erdogan or Putin or USA or whatever it is. But we believe peace at home and peace at world at equal conditions.
You are allways brave when you have the power and you are very cruel people. But even when you have power you are not brave enough to protect Turkish rights in front of USA and Russia or EU and even Israel.
We saw everything during Ergenekon,Balyoz period.
Then we saw during Gezi Park period.
Then we saw during 17th-25 of December period.

You know yourselves better than we know you, for sure.

 

What Erdogan supporter would start a thread as "Osmanli state" or such kind of BS while almost all the die-hard fans of him been trying to get rid of such labeling????

Turks have a long history of being carried away by provocation starting from mid 50's to mid 90s and this we see here on this very page that it unfortunately is proved so again, by an amateur provocateur troll... Absolutely Hilarious !

 

I am quite glad that there are more and more people realising that this "Mineva" is hopeless troll. He or she doesn't even know Turkish yet tries to portray Turks as bunch of Islamists declaring bloody jihad to Europe to kill innocent people. This sneaky "Mineva" is definetely anti-Turkish.

 

I've come across all those posts in response to you... They were real funny and immediately giving insight that "the troll" is just a little kid probably of whom grandma is old Turkish Rum migrated to US, been telling those kids stories about how bad it was during 50s : )))

I wonder if her grandma tells what happened to Adnan Menderes, whose close friends of some media bosses back then perpetrated the incidents by provoking Turks with spreading rumors that Ataturk's house just got bombed in Thessaloniki. I wonder if the grandma tells by Adnan Menderes' orders, people from bunch of different cities, mainly from "Eastern and Southeastern Turkey", which our troll defending the "extremist" inhabitants now, were all carried by public buses to Beyoglu, Istanbul for the ugly revenge of looting Rum properties ?????

I do not think so... Yet, by the end of those incidents there were very few deaths because the main focus was looting, because those people were mainly from poor Kurdish towns, just were put on buses and sent to Istanbul. Many of whom never been to a city like that before in their lives. She's real funny though, especially when not knowing a sh.t about anything and keeps supporting the ones that once caused her beloved grandma migrated to some other country : )))

Tell her to see how the grandchildren of those Rums are enjoying Xmas in Turkey every year:

[video=youtube;mHINh2YjThc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHINh2YjThc[/video]

Then ask her if her grandma knows Turks even exist in Greece, let alone celebrating their Ramadan Holiday by being able to openly walk in the streets of Athens in masses to the Turkish embassy to show their dependency to the Turkish Republic... Yes, that's what Rums are free to do in here !

F*ck the hypocrites !

 

I am AKP supporter and all of other Turkish posters of this forum is anti-AKP guys. You can see the difference between us and you an see the agressive side and the also acting like victims. They are only %20 of Turkish people but also behaving like thugs because of their holly democracy was not on their side. They lost the elections and now dreaming for military coups. You lost guys. Enjoy the democracy. You will never be on the govt. anymore. Your era has finally ended.

 

* Russian Ministry of Economy been hacked by Turkish hackers.

 

Tell that to those who were taxed one of their sons to become part of the Sultan's guards..among other civilized things such as genocide.

Here is a painting by the famous painter Delacroix of the island of Chios. It is my maternal heritage. Sixty thousand people were slaughtered, and it is considered one of the greatest massacre in modern history. So when you praise the Ottoman Empire, it is offensive to a great many people...not only to the Armenians.



Massacre of Chios - by Delacroix

 

Hey Goody stop the deception, that is a Roman Catholic Church, they aren't the original 'Rum/Greek' inhabitants, they are Westerners. As for the people in the streets, they are Turks enjoying the X-mas holidays a la Western style. You forget the 'Rums/Greeks' were all ethnically cleansed...except maybe for a few millions of crypto Orthodox who don't dare show their faces. There are only about 2,000 elderly Greco/Romans registered in Istanbul.

I read that when Erdogan opened an old church in the Pontic area, (the old Kingdom of Trebizond), whose original inhabitants were all massacred and ethnically cleansed with the Armenians, he was shocked to see tens of thousands attending. When he asked where they all came from, he was lied to and told that they were visitors.

So much for freedom.