OSMANLI is back

I was more referring to as it being possibility. Of course he and many other Turks would like to, but is it feasible?
I know what influence he has on the Balkans ,especially Bosnia.

We who know somewhat about the region know very well that former Bosniak President literally have said that Bosnia is to be in Turkish hands if we cannot our self manage to "free our land". Well Croats and Serbs there cannot really agree on that

http://www.klix.ba/vijesti/bih/erdogan-alija-mi-je-ostavio-bosnu-u-amanet/120711135

Erdogan him self saying that Alija "gave" him Bosnia in his testaments.

But I don't blame Western Europeans and Americans thinking this is some kind of conspiracy. Serbs and some other Eastern European countries were fightings Ottomans while the Western Europe lived in peace.

 

I read that when the Indians checked their DNA, they found that the first Aryan men to go into India married Dravidian women, but then to keep their blood pure they set up the caste system and made it part of their religion.

 

I just hope that the Osmanli State will be a peaceful one.

 

You know what? Hitler should have broaden the Aktion T4 program, at least up to France and Holland, then he would have prevented many "brain dead" morons to reproduce to make it possible to vomit sh.it in the 21st century.

BTW; it's mentality what makes people European, so, I'm sorry but you sound more like an ordinary immigrant in the US

 

Oh, no I'm sorry. My grandparents took the coffin ships over from Ireland. My grandmother was an indentured servant. The one thing the immigrants from the old days never thought of doing was coming over here and vomiting up anti-America sentiment, and Bull (*)(*)(*)(*), and expecting everyone to bow to their Irish culture. They assimilated quickly.
Another thing they didn't do when they disembarked from the coffin ships was hold their hands out for benefits, and special privileges.

It took a lot of courage, stamina, and fortitude to ride a rickety ship (coffin ships) all the way across the Atlantic. Today's immigrants land in airplanes, and walk through air conditions airports, then drive in buses, taxis or cars to their new homes equipped with refrigerators, microwaves, hot water, etc. If today's immigrants had to come over to a wilderness with nothing but what they could carry--no electricity, no apartments, no stores, no computers or cell phones, there wouldn't be any more immigrants.

By the way, I'm sorry that it pisses you off so much that you are using technologies created by people of European ancestry. How ironic since we are all "brain dead morons". What makes us European is our light eyes, hair and skin--no other race in the world can say that; and our penchant for innovation and creativity.

And now he'll go into the part about how algebra was a brain child of the Arabs. That's why you were still riding in caravans when we came upon you again, because you were such good mathematicians.

 

Do you think Greeks are European?

 

Please stop trolling my topic. Chief trol Jeanette and his fellows, please !

 

I like the military music. You know Goody the Turks have two things going for them, a great cuisine, and good looking men.

 

A very good looking European with deep gray eyes and black hair--Nicola Tesla--the man who gave us AC power and robotics.

 

I'm so pissed, you can't even imagine... So they assimilated quickly huh? To what? Native Indian culture or Boston's Irish population? Please enlighten us.

I don't think you are European at all because they would read my posts careful enough to know I did not refer the "entire European race" when I said brain dead morons... To me, the real Europeans wouldn't be desperate to hide behind generalizations. So, why do you not fit in? May be because you somehow end up having "black" genes, or Arab genes, only god knows, but let me ask you this; why do you think of yourself so highly that I would care enough to refer "you" when I say brain dead morons? Or that you could speak on behalf of the entire European race that you can bring up techs and machines and etc? What's happening? Are you OK?

BTW, America belongs to Native Americans, by Fallen's words; to "Spilled Milks", so make sure you keep that in mind when you talk about Anatolia and to whom it really belongs

 

Ho do you know it is military music?

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I was just gonna say you sound more like Serbian, thanks. Slavic

 

Some 170 high tech IQs European origin geniuses suggesting a smart solution:

 

* Osmanli State jets are the only airforce doing patrol flight over Syria and Iraq at nights. US, Russia, France Air forces does not flying with manned air vehicles after nightfall because of security reasons.

 

* Currently Osmanli Airforces are shooting ISIS and PKK positions in Syria. (01:20 am)

 

Throughout history when barbaric people conquered a higher civilization, they would learn from it, and then create an even greater civilization. This happened when the Greeks conquered the Minoan and Mycenean civilization, and later when Alexander conquered Persia and Egypt and brought the. knowledge back to Greece.

Rome again conquered, and brought the Greek teachers back to Rome and advanced their own civilization. It happened again with the Franks, and so on and so forth.

So tell me now, what advancement did the Ottomans make when they took over Constantinople? They copied it, but did they advance and learn from it? According to the historian Durant, even in its decadent state Constantinople had more educated people than all of Western Europe, more libraries of all of Western Europe, and more universities than all of Western Europe.

Before the Turks came, these learned men, were brought into France, Florence, Venice and Genoa by the crusader states, and by the Italian colonists. This is what started the intellectual growth of Europe. We call it the Renaissance.

Why is it that the Renaissance started in Western Europe and not in the Ottoman Empire, after all isn't that where the schools and libraries were?

As for the American Indians, many intermarried and adjusted to a farming and industrial society, and those who didn't and wanted to retain their primitive life style, were given large tracts of land to live on. There weren't that many. Most died because they didn't have any immunity to the measles. Only the half breeds did.

Anyway the land and the climate in the US is the most productive in the world, and the people who came over were farmers...and that's why the US prospered. They had to come, there was no way Europe could feed them...

 

That's strange, has Russia allowed the Turkish planes to enter Syria?

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Oh then it's the Osmanli forces that have the missile launches and not the Russians? Interesting!

 

How do you think the Sultan will do at the battle of Jarabulus? Will it make or break Turkey's ambitions...or the Kurds?

 

MOD EDIT - Rule 3
Second, Greeks are "NOT" western Europeans whatsoever despite for centuries -oh sorry, for "A" century because I just forgot Greece was Turkish for 600 years prior a century- their "JUNTA" governments, Golden Dawn kind of killer factions and "paid diaspora trolls" ludicrously try to piece themselves up with western Europeans. Greeks look like more Farsi, and West Anatolian mixed Kurdish, if not North African Arabs, than any average Dutch, English, Swedish, German, French etc. I can put thousands of photos here to compare if you like, but that'd make you little upset. I mean take off that hat for a second and look in the mirror and tell me you look like "western European"

Not only the look though, their "attitudes, laziness, racist chauvinism, irresponsibility, addiction to pleasure/joy, aggressiveness, lack of self motivation, religious barriers, lack of individualism and dependency" just fit too well in Middle Eastern (literally "West-Asian") societies. The only difference is their "Orthodox sect", and the way they grew up with diaspora indoctrination, which are also different than large majority of western European societies.

Now, I know all these sound horrible to any Diaspora kids, so I'll go ahead and put some data here. MOD EDIT - Rule 3
So this is WHY Greeks look like Arabs more than any Western and let's add "Eastern" Europeans (Like Bulgarians, Macedonians, etc, because they look more European than Greeks in general):



The DNA findings are directly proving about the physical features.

Now let's check this out; a comparison of Greece to let's say, UK in society wise;



Source: http://geert-hofstede.com/greece.html

Now as we can see, both societies are "totally" different than each other except one figure; "Long-Term Orientation". What is it? Let's read:

Now, this explains why a significant % of Greeks today -I bet that includes you too- have been having a lot of trouble with the "global change" and why they are preferring to boast with their ancestry this much while above DNA figures are proving they are boasting wrong ancestry and it shows where they ""really"" belong.

I appreciate the effort you put when trying to piece up with "west Europeans" but that makes us all laugh here.

Regards;

 

No, sadly, the devlet-i aliyye-i-osmaniyye, the eternal state, isn't comming back. Atleast not now. Despite whatever moronic ruskie propaganda says, the house of osman isn't back, Turkey is still a republic. It would be better if the monarchy was restored. It would've been better if it had never been abolished. It would quite frankly be better if the turks owned the middle east because the arabs there are obviously confused and don't know what to do. They need a caliph, someone to tell them with authority what is right and what is wrong, and to enforce it muslim-style. It would perhaps not look so nice to western eyes, but it would be legitimate in the muslim world, and that's what matters. There'd be peace. National self-determination is totally over-rated, and imperialism is way, way under-rated. Some people are quite simply better off being ruled by other peoples, and I genuinely believe arabs are such a people. If Turkey wants to take on the burden of ruling those peoples again, to lead them, that would be great. Unfortunately, the time of great empires has passed, so annexation isn't viable anymore. The most Turkey can do is to be the regional hegemon, to lead and protect the weaker states. Erdogan wants Turkey to take a bigger role, and I think they should. Clearly, the arabs don't like being told what to do by westerners, but I think they would have an easier time being told by the turks, a people with historic and religious ties, but which is still a sensible people, friendly to the west.

 

* Russia claims 13 chips of totally 16 chips in the black box is broken.

 

Of course the Greeks are not northern Europeans, and they never claimed to be. The Europeans are the ones who claimed they were the real Greeks so as to rationalize the superiority of Western culture over other cultures. Obviously you have no concept of 19th century European thought.

There is a book that came out in the Smithsonian after WWII called The People of Lerna. It proved that the 'supermenchen' theory of the Nazis that was based on being the inheritors of the ancient Greeks was a lie, and that the ancient Greeks were never a pure Arian race. They had mixed with the Mediterranean original inhabitants and a Nordic people such as the Iranians. He also proved that their physical proportion were similar to the present day Greeks...as has been proven more recently through DNA tests.

Whatever changes there were in their make up came later on with the Europeans who fought for the Emporer and were given land in Anatolia, the crusaders, (there are 350 Frank castles in the Peloponesus), and the colonists from Venice and Genoa who settled the islands and the Greek mainland.

But that's neither here nor there. We are talking about culture, and in that respect the Greeks are the Romans of the Eastern Roman Empire and there are theological implications with that identity. But that is something you could never understand.

 

We are talking about 500 or so years under Turkish rule. I think it was better under Turkish rule...

I mean considering this:




BECOMING THIS:





Is like... I don't know... What the Fck is this man... Greeks must definitely snap out of it... Let all the world's wonders invented by them... I don't care...

Oh Sweet Gaaawwwd...

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