Parents Lose Custody of Daughter for Opposing Transgender Medical Treatments

Really? What did I say that sounded upset?

All I did was ask some questions and point out failures in logic.

Medical professionals also used to suggest leeches, but I guess we shouldn't question liberal logic.

Dead kid walking.

 

The kid is a minor.

At 18, they are free to make the decision.

And no, its not "normal".

 

I am afraid that will be the fate of this person. See,. Democrats want the mentally ill not to have guns.

 

I made sure my kids grew up with BB guns and motorcycles.

 

The grandparents are apparently the legal guardians of the child already.

 

Hey, there's a lot of eyeless kids roaming around thanks to BB guns!

Oh wait, no there's not.

 

Because keeping homosexuality, transgenderism, and domestic abuse secret was so much better for everyone.

 

Your reaction just seems extreme it makes me think you might be upset, but if not then my mistake.

These medical professionals aren't suggesting leeches though and to compare that is a fallacy. You aren't disputing the legitimacy of the treatment by saying "some things doctors did 100s of years ago were bad, so this is bad".

Your attempt at logic is a failure.

 

I question the role biology should play in ones identity. While biology may help shape our personality I would not say that identity itself has a gender, a color, long hair, or wart on its forehead. It seems that identity has become very material as opposed to abstract in some peoples minds. Their identities are only existing if they can be viewed and expressed by others instead of existing independent and sure in itself. A truly healthy identity transcends material plane. It is a soul and consciousness that exists beyond the physical. Perhaps the loss of societies growth in their spirituality has resulted in people being incapable of seeing who they are beyond their simple and finite biology.

"For when you die and return a blade of grass you will be very disappointed by your missing penis." -Great Buddhist, Uinople Ohp

 

No.

 

Yep, and I feel for it.

 

I can be certain this has been a topic in the past and that sooner or later it brings up two issues.
1. Why is the Democrat mind so vastly different from the Republican mind? Why do Republicans speak more like the studious and wise founders speak while Democrats sound like they are angry with the system of this nation so much of the time?
2. Why is the female mind different than the male mind. The female of the two sexes tends to be much more involved in body painting, rings to decorate their ears and noses and more. Some put rings in their vagina. Women must nurture since they bear children. So i get their more tender feelings. Women want to talk. Men want to act. There are far more differences as well.

In context, who has studied this girls mind to verify if the mind operates as a female or as a male?

 

How interesting. Science has no role in your view apparently.

 

Mmm no. Extreme is the government fighting for teenagers to be able to lop off their penis.

How is a male who thinks they're female any different than a human being thinking they're a cat?

How is it different than the state saying some kid with xenomelia should be able to chop off their arms and legs if they threaten suicide?

How is it different than the state saying some kid with bulimia should be able to starve themselves if they threaten suicide?

In 50 years people in these same professions are going to look back at this transgender mental illness championship the same way they look at using leeches in modern medicine.

Body dysphoria is a mental illness. It doesn't matter what form it takes.

 

OK let's focus on where we agree. This person is in need of therapy. The parents were denying treatment and the boy was suicidal. You can disagree with the doctors and psychiatrists all you want, but that's not ok.

 

17 is very close to adulthood. Adults dont need their parents permission to do anything. Hyped up story to garner attention... bet s/he's got a gofundme page for snowflakes to donate.

 

The problem with the "but he threatened suicide" ipso facto time to chop off penis argument should be obvious.

Are you aware of the suicide rate of transgender people both before and after surgery?

a) Teens threaten to commit suicide when they get the car taken away or their boyfriend breaks up with them (i.e. "all the time")
b) These doctors moved this person into a category of those statistically more likely to commit suicide

 

Every trans person is mentally ill plain and simple.

 

I am familiar with those statistics. They are grim. I think there is likely some hope in the future. Homosexuals used to have horrifyingly high suicide rates and as societal acceptance increased those rates have decreased to normal levels.

You think the doctors made him trans? How exactly does that work?

If a doctor or psychiatrist thinks someone is going to attempt to kill themselves they have a legal obligation to get involved.

 

So if a 17 year old wants a tattoo and their psrents refuse to allow it, they should be removed from the parents custody?

 

Actually I'm pretty sure that the suicide rates of homosexuals is still many times more than the general population, as are such things as same-sex domestic violence. Quite a bit higher in all areas, in fact.

Yes, the doctors are allowing a 17 year old to demand plastic surgery so that reality is changed to reflect what is in the kids mind.

The reason this doesn't work, and suicide rates don't change after they have sex surgery, is that despite the surgery they are still male, and they know it.

Oh I have no disagreement that someone who is suicidal shouldn't have some kind of intervention.

The difference is in the choice of intervention.

I wouldn't starve a bulimic to make them "happy" any more than I would chop someone's arms and legs off to make them "happy" and less suicidal.

Feeding the sickness by chopping some 17 year old kids penis off will not help them. It only delays the inevitable.

 

He was 17? Emancipation would not have been difficult here.

The real issue is that parents may never see their child again.

Awesome parenting there.

 

Do you libs always have to use drama when making an argument? What abuse was there? This kid's case went to court, if there was any kind of child or domestic abuse don't you think the parents would have been arrested? Since they weren't one would have to conclude a lot of people thought there was no abuse and it's the right of the parents to make the decision they did.

 

When this guy is 35 and wants his penis back, he'll curse his parents for failing to stop the reassignment.

 

My homosexual brother, James ... rest in peace Jim... in grade school told the kids in school first, stop calling me James and call me Sue. When Mom found out, probably the school called her, she was upset. She and Dad talked it over and decided he needed the care of a health professional. Back in those days, health professionals did not take your months income for a office visit. Doctors care was actually affordable.

After a bit of time with his care, he told Mom that Jim hated his birth father and did not want to be like him. I too did not want to be like Art, but it did not make me a homosexual.

Anyway, Jim later in life died due to him living in New York City and partaking of the beer drinking life. He did not sip a beer, he guzzled them. The more the merrier. He was too darned old to blame our parents. But what if his rather manly manhood had been cut off using an axe, it was pretty good sized? He wasted it on men's rectums. I think however in his case, he mostly let them use his. Rest in peace my brother. Very very smart. Very much a delicate person. Taught me how to spot homosexuals.