Part 38 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

As a matter of fact no-one can prove God's existence. All you have is a book that has been shown to be - at best - a historical novel.

 

The gods Sterguilinus and Crepitus exist as well because the evidence of them is on constant display around the world.

 

Funny innit how I did not name GOD. GOD creates so I don't doubt there are named gods.

 

The biblical God is named Yahweh, the God of the Hebrews and the God of the armies. Are you a Hebrew?

 

No, I might be Navajo or perhaps Cherokee or by golly I am English. My ancestors arrived in America in the 1700s as I understand this and migrated from the Eastern States clear to CA.

What amazes me is the number of posters who first say there is no GOD them proceed to tell me of many many GODS. They even know those GODs names.

 

All ethnocentric deities have names.

Exodus 3:18 (ERV) = “The elders will listen to you. And then you and the elders will go to the Pharaoh. You will tell him, ‘Yahweh is the God of the Hebrews. He came to us and told us to travel three days into the desert. There we must offer sacrifices to Yahweh our God.’

Psalm 59:5 (WEB) = "You, Yahweh God of Armies, the God of Israel, rouse yourself to punish the nations. Show no mercy to the wicked traitors. Selah."

All gods are imaginary, even the Bible says so.

Isaiah 41:23-24 (ERV) =
"23 What signs did you give in the past to prove that you really are gods? Do something! Do anything, good or bad, so that we can see that you are alive. Then we might fear and respect you.

24 “Look, you false gods are worthless. You cannot do anything. Only some horrible fool would want to worship you.”

 

I am good to go with the Original GOD and any he may have created.

 

Unsubstantiated claimed gods. Are you in grade school?

 

I finished grade school in 1952. But you did not address my comments.

 

But there are all kinds of versions of the word of god. There's jewish , christian (multiple interpretations notwithstanding), hindu, muslim, zoarastran and on and on. Each believing that THEIR book is the word of god.

In any case, the "word of god" in the christian example is a carefully selected anthology of human written stories selected by a small group of profoundly ignorant people who happened to have the most vested interest in it in the first place.

 

You said you are amazed at those posters who claim there is no God then name gods. This in no way contradicts our assertion that we do not believe in a god. We are naming unsubstantiated gods. I did address your comment.

 

Well of course it's a silly story to you...(you being a non-believer in the Almighty God, The Creator!)...that's why I'm not surprised by your response. So let me hear your silly story ( in your non-believer's perspective) of why the world we live in is the way it is. Why do we have all these natural disasters?...Why do people commit horrific acts of violence against one another, steal, lie, murder, etc? Why do we all have to face physical death someday? What's your explanation?

 

knowing and studying mythology is interesting

 

Natural disasters are the way the world was formed. (Hm. So god created the world) People commit violence because that is human nature. We have evolved from the animal world where survival is the way of life. Physical death is natures way. Why do you want to live forever? Isn't it enough to go through life helping the less fortunate without seeking reward of life 'eternal'.

The Garden of Eden is a myth. No evidence exists for Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses or the Exodus outside of the Bible. In fact evidence of archaeology and ancient history disproves the Bible accounts. They are simply allegories and myths.

 

All living things die........

 

Even stars and galaxies die.

 

To deny that statements 1 and 2 are contradictory is to deny logic. Obviously if God created everything in the universe then God created everything in the universe. Sin is in the universe thus God created sin.

If God did not want sin to exist then sin would not exist. God gave you a brain (complete with the ability for logic and rational thought) for a reason. Why are you trying to deny that you have this capacity ?

Theologians in general do not deny that God created sin - as this would make the belief that God created the universe foolishness. How they explain sin is through free will.

God created humans with the capacity for both Good and Evil - With the capacity for sin. He gave logic and rational thought to humans so that they might decipher the difference between the two.

God could have easily created a robot that would do only what God wanted. He didn't do that.
God gave humans free will and this gives humans the ability to act against the will of God.

Rather than try to deny the obvious and deny that logic and rational thought are God given. Perhaps it is better to contemplate why God gave humans the ability to sin.

I am not a "non-believer" in God. You are the one who wishes to deny your God given ability for logic and rational thought. Why do you try to demonize the messenger by transferring your failings on to me ? is this not irrational ?

My explanation for horrific acts and natural disasters is given above. Humans were given the gift of free will. With this give comes the ability to sin.

God gave the ability to distinguish between good and evil. The story of Adam and Eve in Genesis is an allegorical description of the struggle between good and evil. The flood story is the same. In the Flood story God himself admits creating humans was a mistake - and by inference this mistake was giving them free will.

 

Does the bible tell us anything about whether North Koreans go to heaven or hell? What about Thomas Jefferson, Ghandi, Socrates, and Albert Einstein?

 

And Donald Trump?

 

A similar question was asked somewhere back in the mists of time. You might get an answer sometime in the distant future. Way back around 2015 I asked several questions. I gave up hope of an answer around episode 20 of the eternal promise to reveal truths in the Bible.

 

If Yahweh makes mistakes when he isn't under any pressure how can you trust his judgment when he's under stress?

 

Interesting question. One point of clarification I would put forward is that the creator God is not YHWH.
YHWH - God of Moses, was one of the 70 or so son's of El. El (Enlil) was the creator God of Genesis and God of Abraham. http://www.thedivinecouncil.com/DT32BibSac.pdf

The article above is by a pre-eminent ancient Hebrew Scholar but, it is commonly accepted among theologians that El (head of the Sumerian Pantheon) who was the God of Abraham.

So much so that this is what is claimed in the Encyclopedia Britannica.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Abraham

 

All I can say is that the Bible tells us that people who ask for forgiveness of their sins, who accept Jesus Christ as their Lord Savior, they will be saved and spend eternity with God in His Kingdom of Heaven. All others will go to hell for punishment of their sins.

We Read in Scripture:

23 For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard. 24 Yet God, in his grace, freely makes us right in his sight. He did this through Christ Jesus when he freed us from the penalty for our sins. 25 For God presented Jesus as the sacrifice for sin. People are made right with God when they believe that Jesus sacrificed his life, shedding his blood. This sacrifice shows that God was being fair when he held back and did not punish those who sinned in times past, 26 for he was looking ahead and including them in what he would do in this present time. God did this to demonstrate his righteousness, for he himself is fair and just, and he makes sinners right in his sight when they believe in Jesus.---Romans 3:23-26 NLT

 

Can you at least address the morality of punishing people for not believing when they might not have even heard of Jesus? Do you think people might have a chance to change after they die?

 

In today's world most people have heard of Jesus and what He represents but of course they are still some people who have never heard of Him. But just because these people have never heard of Jesus that doesn't mean they are all doomed to eternal punishment. God will fairly judge all these people and so some will be saved and some will be punished. And it is too late to change after one dies, you must decide one way or another while you're living here on earth. But anyway below is a passage from Scripture that pretty much backs up what I've said regarding people who have never heard of Jesus, in that some will be saved and others punished.

We Read in Scripture:

12 When the Gentiles sin, they will be destroyed, even though they never had God’s written law. And the Jews, who do have God’s law, will be judged by that law when they fail to obey it. 13 For merely listening to the law doesn’t make us right with God. It is obeying the law that makes us right in his sight. 14 Even Gentiles, who do not have God’s written law, show that they know his law when they instinctively obey it, even without having heard it. 15 They demonstrate that God’s law is written in their hearts, for their own conscience and thoughts either accuse them or tell them they are doing right. 16 And this is the message I proclaim—that the day is coming when God, through Christ Jesus, will judge everyone’s secret life. ---Romans 2:12-16 NLT