Garry, Your contempt of anyone on the left is showing. Theres no need to post like an attack-dog. When you referred to me and others here over and over and over and over in the past as having pretensions to superiority, I dont suppose THAT was stereotyping and projection on your part, huh? Perhaps it's only stereotyping and projection when other people say things (you dont like). Your aggressive style of posting is a turn-off.
And now you're singling out the left... for this and that and the other thing. You know, whatever, really. Just a mass of opinions... and no one trumps anyone else. I expressed that I hadn't been influenced by anyone on the right. Wasn't lying. It was just stating something true for me. So shoot me.
Go girl, I have read a lot of other posts, aragent is one word which comes to mind, and he is not alone here by the looks of it.
I am sorry but no I do not stereo-type you or anybody else to be left, right or indifferent. My contempt for people who specifically target anything they oppose in a derogatory way has come from their very own treatment of others opinion and thoughts. NOT anything to do with party politics as you would suggest. The other reason is the lack of acceptance when shown to be incorrect, simply run and hide and pretend it didnt happen If you dont like being treated with contempt, dont treat people that way yourself simply because you do not agree Oh I am sorry, you have incorrectly interpreted my comment of pretence. While in some it could be considered to simply mean this, the fact is (as I keep pointing out) it is pretending to be something they are not. Again while can be considered to be superiority, As you want to insinuate, it is not. The point in this thread is such, many want to pretend this thread was not created as a political thread and yet they post to categorise people on political sides and comment as such, all the time justifying and insulting anybody they personally object too Just to be clear, No I do not stereo-type people. I talk, listen watch and see how these people interact with all about before I decide how I will interact with them. I could list why so and so is a pretentious bigot and why somebody else is racist. Frankly, that Is just little silly, but as I have already alluded to a post of yours a while back when you decided to come clean about this thread what you were really saying is that if anybody has proven you wrong or refuted your stance you simply oppose them harder as if it was some type of competition to be right and never admit fault This comment also shows that pretence (or the pretender) that you have never had anybody show you wrong You talk about reflections . I dont suppose THAT was stereotyping and projection on your part, huh? Perhaps it's only stereotyping and projection when other people say things (you dont like). One just wonders???
Windbags are always giggle worthy Finicky and self absorbed and certainly awkward. There are many on this forum who have made me think differently, but unfortunately for some they seem to all come from the left? The more I read discussions on here the more left I think. I think I'm a lefty???
Yeap, it is either a Commu or Leftie or Greene or or or? For some the green lawn over the fence is always greener than their own, maybe that is their real problem. Some of them associate a boxer with this color. And just imagine, some don't even know that green is a mix of yellow and blue..... But to hell and back, they know what Greenes and lefties and Commus really are, their enemies..... So here we go, you stand up for less pollution, you favor renewables, you stand up for refugees, ask for the ultra rich to pay their fair share (nothing else, only their fair share) and those bastards hate you. I love being hated..... Cheerio
I don't believe Garry was being overtly aggressive in his comments towards forum members, who identify their own ideologies with certain political parties with similar ideologies. He was simply demonstrating that many of these forum members who identify themselves as having lefty political ideologies have a problem in accepting responsibility and accountability when serious fundamental flaws in lefty ideology and psychology arises. He gave an example, whereby these members can target and blame other people who have different ideologies to themselves for causing one particular problem or issue, but they refuse to accept any blame or accountability when their ideology causes the same problem and issue. We both know there is a special term for people who blame others when they do the same thing, and calling them out on this behaviour is not called: stereotyping or superior.
Finding this pathetic. You say: "He was simply demonstrating that many of these forum members who identify themselves as having lefty political ideologies have a problem in accepting responsibility and accountability when serious fundamental flaws in lefty ideology and psychology arises." According to who? So who made you or Garry or anyone God... to DECIDE anyone's 'serious fundamental flaws in lefty ideology and psychology"? What a joke. As if you or anyone has a monopoly on 'understanding fundamental flaws about ideology and psychology'. Perception and one's own reality come to the fore in such matters... not some God-knowing knowing. What a a bunch of ridiculous-arrogance.
The responses to your OP combined with the ridiculous barrage of thought bubbles by another poster is the reason that most posters are virtually ignoring this site.....
Really? In your post #18 to Garry you state: "...There’s no need to post like an attack-dog. Your aggressive style of posting is a turn-off." How the worm turns. With your "lefty" ideology taking the moral high-road, haven't you just attacked me in the same attack dog way you accused Garry of attacking others? Doesn't this make your style of communication aggressive and a turn off? Or is being aggressive okay for you and not anyone else, because you think you are on the side of righteousness thinking like a "lefty"? Something tells me you should be looking in the mirror before accusing anyone of having a GOD complex. Really funny how "lefty thinkers" can never take responsibility for their own moral behaviour, but always willing to blame others.
If you had any reasonable intellect, you would have immediately understood the premise of my arguments. Left & right political ideologies are psychologically flawed, or politicians wouldn't keep making the same MISTAKES. The mistakes happen when the political parties ideologies are incorrect. Ideologies occur when a human being invents them, so they become psychologically flawed when they are NOT compatible with the majority of "Social Construction". Get it now?
There is nothing more honorable than standing up for a worthy cause, but there is also nothing more stupid than being trusting to a fault.
I will have to agree with you. Reading your posts you are an expert in stupid. I am just wondering why you live in Australia since you think both the people of Australia and all politicians are stupid, is it because here you feel superior? You are constantly denigrating Australian voters, why, because they do not agree with your views and you think this lady is arrogant. MY God.
I have read a lot of threads here and I must congratulate you for this one. Never have I seen anyone drag all the worms out of the woodwork like you have. I know you know that some leopards will never change their spots, unlike thinking people who vote on issues and policies rather then some hundred year old ideology. It doesn't matter what evidence you provide, what sense you make, it all comes down to one thing. The Right is right and the Left is wrong, no questions, no proof, no discussion. Why, because they cannot, they just attack as you can see they are yapping at your ankles like a pack of ravenous chihuahuas. The reason for this is simple, the left needs intelligence, thought, compassion. The right needs only profit and even a 5 year old can figure out if you buy some thing for a dollar and sell it for two you make a profit. However to understand the finer points of politics, finance, humanity etc you do need a brain, so do not be angry with them, pity them
Up until this point there was no politics discussed really, just an older member saying she was leaving due to loosing interest. I love this bit ... your posts are all about stereotypes, you NEVER discuss the topic with the actual people you just fob them off as all being green/alp/commos. Taljk about stereotyping. The epitome of arrogance. That statement is as stupid, nearly as stupid as Hockey's My God I could paste nearly every post of yours to show your arrogance, stereotyping and projections. You never DEBATE, you just denigrate the poster and say it is all alp/union/communist propaganda. This is dull, ignorant and boring and shows you know nothinmg
There are a few self appointed gurus on the forum who think they epitomise intelligence I swear. Look at me, look at me! These cocksure folk will disagree with everyone and anything in a denigrating manner to keep their delusions alive and well and expect no derision in return. When you attempt to have a serious discussion, these types jump in with omnipotent extraneous monotony and negativity it deflates real honest discusion every time.
You are such a gracious and insighful poster Gwen. I think Garry is just way to quick to clip that cap on, like it gives him super powers. Anyway, it's about time we had an open and frank discussion about the goings on in this forum. You'd hope that people could have healthy discussions without the attacks and outright negativity but some of us get caught up in the little game, mainly because there is no use presenting discussions with questions because the know alls want to override threads with their self proclaimed omnipotents and negativity. Maybe this is the wrong place for healthy debates, maybe no on-line forum is a place for healthy debates.
I'm sorry if the truth hurts. You're the one making these grandiose assumptions about me living in Australia based not nothing, are you not? What does that say about your intellect? Maybe it would be best to keep your high school psychology and assumptions about a members geographical location to yourself, or until you have some facts. If you fail to comprehend that Gwen accused Garry of attacking others, and committed to same act herself by attacking me, and therefore becoming a hypocrite; then you obviously need additional education.
For god sake, you should be the last member on this forum to accuse others of not wanting to have logical debates. Every time someone starts a debate that you don't feel comfortable with, you deliberately sabotage the debate by crying them down as racists before the debate has even really began, or you run away and hide. I have never seen you partake in a full debate or contribute to a debate without targeting someone as a racist without even knowing what the evidence and facts that individual is going to present to the debate. Do you even know what a debate is? The cornerstone of any good debate is the ability to use positive and negative critical analysis, but you only want to use positive without any negative, and then you think by doing this we can somehow have an intellectual logical debate. LOL Get real first T.V, and then we might be able to have some good debates without you turning into a "witch-hunter"!!
I remember about two years ago I attempted to have an intellectual debate about Australia’s indigenous people (Aboriginals). I provided a scientific link from Wikipedia regarding the evidence found regarding “Mungo Man” and how this might impact current held beliefs and theories regarding the Aboriginal peoples claim they were the first Australians. I didn’t write the theory, but when I posted the link, Truthvigilante and Dom Vidios attacked me for being a racist, and hating Aboriginals. They attacked me without knowing what other evidence and data I was going to produce to support my debate, and in fact, they didn’t even know which side I was debating - pro or con, because the debate ended so fast. - LOL They just assumed, as they usually do, that I was against Aboriginals, because I introduced a scientific link that scientifically questioned the current Aboriginal time frame of Australian occupation. Its just bloody ridiculous, that as soon as someone uses critical analysis to debate or question a certain topic like Australian Aboriginals; the whole topic become sacrosanct and no one is allowed to say or produce anything negative against them out of fear of being cried down as a racist. Well, if some people want to label me a racist for using a psychological and intellectual procedure like critical positive & negative analysis during adult discussions and debates: then I’m a racist. These (accusers) are the same people who come onto this forum and grandiose themselves by saying no one can have a serious debate. But they never consider they are the ones sabotaging the debates, because they truly don’t understand or comprehend “what” and “how” an intellectual debate works. Personally, these members don’t scare or intimidate me by calling me a racist or misogynist during a debate, when these are the only comments they have intellectually available. I am very open-minded and willing to change my mind on anything, if the correct data and evidence is provided to prove that my current beliefs are wrong.
You seriously think we don't know your attitude and intent towards the Indigenous? You have said: "One problem with the Aboriginals, they have zero respect and gratitiude for the Australian people, and they should have. They should have more respect and gratitude for us, then we do for them, considering we could have exterminated the bloody lot of them legally as vermin under the Flora and Fauna Act." http://www.politicalforum.com/australia-nz-pacific/349604-gender-neutral-3.html You know, quite disgusting. How can anyone purport to being 'intellectual' with that level of of a block and resistance and hatred for our Indigenous? This place is so incredibly bizarre.
