Politics aside...

Discussion in 'Australia, NZ, Pacific' started by Gwendoline, Nov 7, 2015.

  1. garry17

    garry17 Well-Known Member

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    Now I know your manic hatred of me will set you off on some tangent because you will be unable to comprehend what is being said but here goes anyway.

    First, I have to say I know you support the Greens, simply because you will defend them to the death. Unfortunately due to your beliefs that quantifies your understanding…

    Now it is YOUR presumption that the world is carved up into left and right sides and that they should both be at war with each other. This however, opposes EVERYTHING the Greens claim to stand up for.
    Now you want to say that your no different than anybody else and it is unreasonable to suggest such??? Are you REALLY that simple???
    Now that is not necessarily true is it??? You stand up for policy that the GREENS agree with no matter if other policy produces the same outcome. As I have previously stated, if you are truly believe in reducing pollution and that it is such a serious matter you would support ANY policy that reduces pollution. Obviously, you do not as you oppose anything that is not Greens policy.
    Again, get it right renewable YOU agree with.
    As has been pointed out you will stand up for what YOU believe shows your humanity. You claim certain people are fleeing for their life and pretend those who live in UN refugee camps do not exist. Why ??? No mileage out of those ones just as the Greens. I found it particular disgusting that a particular Refugee whose wife and child drowned at sea returned to their country. When the person himself stated he was going for a better life, NO the greens told the world not to listen to the man himself he was fleeing for his life… What a load of crap…


    As long as YOU don’t have to pay it.
    Who hates who here??? We all know you hate me so much you actually will argue against me in opposition of your beliefs…

    If you really could discuss the policies you pretend to revere, what glorious debates we could have…
     
  2. Gwendoline

    Gwendoline Well-Known Member

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    A strange world, huh?

    I wanted to return your nice gesture and send a couple of songs your way. I went to an amazing Mary Chapin Carpenter concert recently and she was supported by an equally amazing woman called Tift Merritt. (The second video is a whole concert, but maybe just a little listen to the first song if you like it. :smile:)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3rt30oFJGM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70c8NOqKVy4

    Have a good night, mister magoo.
     
  3. Adultmale

    Adultmale Active Member Past Donor

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    I think the appropriate word for that contribution is 'delusional'.
     
  4. LeftRightLeft

    LeftRightLeft Well-Known Member

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    And the word for yours
    ...Predictable
     
  5. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You leave yourself wide open for derision with your excessive pedantic attempt at patronisation. Got news for ya Gazza, just because you say it, does not mean it is fact or resonates or actually makes any sense. It's to the contrary to be honest. Get down off high horse and the pedantical nonsense. Stop attempting to correct everyone, namely those who you may perceive to sit on the left. Yes left. You either sub-consciously do it or purposely attempt it in an implicit manner. Far from implicit though to be frank. What one can gauge from your commentary is that you are fully aware of left and right but pretend to be oblivious to these notional lines.
    My patronising advice to you: Engage with people and slow it down a bit. You can get lost in your ramblings sometimes in your attempt to address every little point in someone's post that you disagree with, incontrovertibly with the perceived left. Don't expect people to subscribe to your thoughts, just say it the way you want to say it. There is a good mixture of beliefs and attitudes on this forum.
    For those of us, who you think collaborate, we happen to have the same perspective built on over-arching values. You will find we still have differences of opinion and have expressed this on many occasions. They may not like what I say and I may not like what they say from time to time. Okay, enough of patronising. : )

    People leaving the forum or having a rest for a while has been done thing in the 4 or so years I've been a member. There is one major issue that is a real turnoff and not sure why there isn't a rule against it and that is the amount of threads someone can post in a day. I choose to navigate around it now.

    Okay, I'm waiting for the next round of pedantic patronisation.
     
  6. garry17

    garry17 Well-Known Member

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    Umm... isn't that your line??? After all it is YOU who told the world that because you say it, it is fact.

    No it is NOT fact just because I say it, and I never proclaimed it to be so, It is YOU who states this to be the case. However, it is fact in my mind until somebody demonstrates the error of my ways which clearly you are unable. Again I have on many occasions admitted fault and accepted correction, I do not lie to the forum that I have all the answers. I do leave myself wide open and you have EVERY chance to show me incorrect, but you do not...
    Just as you believe your comment is correct as fact while it cannot be refuted so do I. BUT unlike you when somebody shows and demonstrates my comment to be incorrect I do acknowledge and accept correction. What is it MOST do, Including YOU, run and hide under your bed and hope nobody saw. Just in this thread alone we see the ultimate refusal to admit anything of fault, as I know YOU and GWEN alone have been corrected and saw the result, this point in your comment sadly goes to reduce the rest to mere incredulous complain.

    BUT on we go
    Just as you do not require support for opinions you happen to agree with I do not require the same. Thus we can discuss many issues until the facts become clouded by either delusion or inaccurate support. The fact that while YOU complain I have the left side of politics the fact is I hate ALL side of politics, the problem is that just as you have demonstrated here if people do not agree with their side of politics they degenerate the conversation into insults and complaints because they have nothing else. That is the problem of simply sitting their complaining of being segregated to a side of politics.

    Again you have every opportunity to demonstrate me wrong but before doing so you will need to reappear as somebody new. We have far too many examples of your lack of thought and hard line belief to support a party over policy…
    I love that word “notional” an attempt to sound intelligent… BUT hey let us move on…
    I try to be oblivious to left and right. It is not pretence it is a deliberate attempt to get the conversation out of the gutter, unfortunately, it always end there. Always, unless the thread or poster is fabricating information I begin with trying to address the posts or threads premise. I always commence with support and simply ask that the poster support their OWN comment. Alas, I do have a problem of having interacted with most and found them to be lacking… So what else is there to do on this forum but try and get people who are lobotomised by their belief???
    My advise to you is NOT to lead in with insult. Again this forum is not simply your place to insult anybody and everybody at your leisure…
    Frankly, until you can demonstrate some credibility, get ready for more…
    Yes, like-minded people… again here to reaffirm your beliefs not to have them challenged… When you do have a difference of opinion it is put down to not having the same facts, which is true. BUT it is never really corrected with the real facts, just the facts that fit your interpretation… NOT really a difference of opinion just a conversational piece.
    There is a rule against it, in fact there are several rules against it… but truly that is only the reason some mind numbed people are leaving. The truth is that they are sick of people who cannot debate a policy or a subject except on the lines of their party perceptions. They get sick of the fact that when it does not travel their way they degenerate into a insult fest and when others show your errors you run and hide as if it is some sort of discrediting issue that one MUST NOT be WRONG… Sorry, If your wrong your wrong, admitting such is no flaw it is actually a strength. When you grow enough to learn that we may be able to really have some good conversations…
    And thus we see you provide nothing but your vitriol.
     
  7. garry17

    garry17 Well-Known Member

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    Umm When posted this was your seventeenth post... You begin by supporting a reflection on other posters and set forth yourself with similar actions. One would have to assume you have felt the rather of Garry yourself and come off second best. HOWEVER, that is pretty irrelevant. So you lead in with insult and expect others to come and defend themselves with irrational hatred...

    Well arrogant I am, In fact on these pages I would go so far as to say I am obnoxious. I make no bones about it... my point is though, you too are arrogant or you would not be on these pages pretending not to be... Are you not opinionated??? This post demonstrates such; also do you not consider your beliefs to be above others??? Yes, by attempting to judge others and categorise others.

    With that in mind you show me nothing but contempt, so I do not see any reason to not to treat you with that same contempt. Do you interest me??? Not at present because it appears you want to pretend you something you’re not and pound your judgement upon the forum...

    Great start there... But with our first interaction we see the hypocrisy…
     
  8. Gwendoline

    Gwendoline Well-Known Member

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    You seem to love picking away at people... and picking and picking. I find it quite bizarre.
     
  9. garry17

    garry17 Well-Known Member

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    Well, that is interesting seeing as it was you who began with reflection on another poster... Perhaps you should think about your own actions before trying to chip others.

    What is Bizarre, is the fact you believe that you’re allowed to reflect on others and they are not allowing retort in anyway because you’re just it... talk about being omnipotent
     
  10. Gwendoline

    Gwendoline Well-Known Member

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    Not so... the 'reflections' actually were first started by you in post #12. That is, your 'reflections' on me. Your long long reflection.

    I started this thread with a hello and a mention of the weather here. And a comment that I hadn't been influenced by right leaning people. Which is entirely true. Not fibbing.

    So why get on my back with some long venting rant about god knows what? What do you want, Garry, a medal?
     
  11. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    He doesn't get it, not here, not in other threads...
    Regards
     
  12. LeftRightLeft

    LeftRightLeft Well-Known Member

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    They are full of their own importance, you only have to read the way they debase, debate has no meaning.
     
  13. garry17

    garry17 Well-Known Member

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    So I attacked you, is your claim??? I am sorry to say, people talk about you and me all the time while NOT actually talking too us. As stated those comments were to another to demonstrate his gullibility to what he was addressing. The fact those were to demonstrate the lie you began is not my issue but yours.
    Yes, you began this thread (AS STATED) to find like-minded people to help your self-gratification and tell the world of your propensity to be a lefty… We get it, it was not political until somebody took you to task over your overt attempt to hammer YOUR perception of the opposition…

    And you comment as not fibbing, as stated, you did not come here to challenge your opinion you came to find like-minded people to cram your opinion down everybody else’s throat you do not agree with. Evidence of such is your attack with your pals on CD with your attempt to insinuate his racism. Again just disgusting. You want to pretend you’re a better person but remain unable to discuss anything. So when your caught out (which I have done personally several times) you run and hide and pretend it did not exist... Yes I am sure NOBODY will ever influence you in anyway because that is not what you come here for…
    Again, I did not post to YOU. You just got your goat up and jumped in to my post to somebody else. Since you did, I have right to retort to YOUR attack… Stop pretending to be the victim, Sure YOU were quoted, but simply to show the point to the poster of your delusion of non-political.

    Politics aside… My arse…
     
  14. garry17

    garry17 Well-Known Member

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    Just interested, could you actually point out to a post that you have made that is debating and not simply an overt attempt to insult somebody??? So far all I have seen is hatred and vitriol.

    I must admit, though, I have not been following you,
    Me thinks it is you who “does not get it”. While you think it is fine to fabricate your delusions, does not mean they are true

    Now would you all like to bash me because I don’t agree with you??? We know CAT hates me with venom and I am guessing the other two do too. After all that seems to be the tactics of the inadequate at present…
     
  15. Gwendoline

    Gwendoline Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I see what you mean.
     
  16. Gwendoline

    Gwendoline Well-Known Member

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    Yep. There is no conversation... just someone pontificating at you and projecting on you. Just bizarre.

    Can't believe anyone would be that full of themselves. I'm particularly over it.
     
  17. garry17

    garry17 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, as pointed out several times I was not conversing with you and you simply charged in with insult. What do you expect???
    Look in the mirror, it is YOU who continues to draw this out and again want to pretend the victim. Talk about aggressive attack dogs... I make no bone about it, so far the only conversation in this thread has been the obvious self-gratification between two posters pretending that they are not discussing politics… what a JOKE…
     
  18. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I love pulling no punches in a debate, but now I'm concerned. Honestly, it's not normal. It's creepy like.
     
  19. garry17

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    It is creepy, when other people don't think like you isn't it??? It is real concerning when other people actually form their own opinion from facts and not the fallacy of like-minded lobotomised individuals who want to simply toe the party line???

    So when you actually want a debate perhaps you might start with some policy, but until then, for all the time I have been on this forum, the only thing I have seen from you is your bigotry and insults.

    And you want to point the finger, Go figure.
     
  20. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anyway, the weather can improve up on the goldy, or maybe down on the goldy for some. Looking forward to some clear blue sky's with no wind for a change would be nice. Actually writing this I'm wondering what would be the perfect weather? Maybe it just depends on the day before?
     
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    Perhaps we need a weather thread... possibly the only place where we could allay and offset heated-heads. :smile:

    Was 41 degrees a couple of day ago here. Sydney melting...

    Here's to perfect weather days for Goldy and Sydney and everywhere else. :smile:

    How's the weather for everyone else?
     
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    [MENTION=7902]Gwendoline[/MENTION],

    I don't want to start off on the wrong foot. However, you strike me as deeply bigoted. I hope, with therapy, you can overcome these grave issues.
     
  23. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good swimming weather. Loving it for the moment. Is there a cool change coming?
     
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    As always, the weather is what we make out of it......
    Cheerio
     

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