A truly asinine argument. You are basically stating that a gay American Citizen should have the same rights and privilege as your dog, and no more. That's really f**ked up, dude.
I am a product of the era when Gay actually means happy. You seem so very unhappy. Since you unloaded on me as you did, please explain why you are so unhappy. By the way, if you don't like the woman's article, maybe using my link, just tell her how you feel.
Dude, I'm fine. I've been married to the same woman for 24 years - I understand what marriage is. I just don't see why a gay American Citizen should not enjoy the privileges that I enjoy as an American Citizen. Your asinine argument that letting a gay American Citizen marry the person they love (within the same age restrictions as straight Americans) is tantamount to people marrying their dogs is a pathetic response to dealing with individual rights questions.
Look, maybe if I feel as angry as you are, I too will load my posts with invectives against you. But for the time being, why can't you understand that the homosexuals excluded a huge number of people. And they made a mockery of the word marriage. Justice Roberts and many other important people believe the basic thrust of marriage was to protect children.
Did you and your wife have a legal purpose behind being married? If you mean rights as in the constitution, if homosexuals "gain rights" then how can the rest of us be excluded? I am not protected nor do I get things since I am not married. How is it that the unmarried are now excluded from rights seemingly with your permission?
Another asinine argument. Millions of American couples have married WITHOUT any intention or ability to produce children. It was not the job of homosexual couples to get marriage approved for your dog or for the dude who wanted six wives. Gay couples spent their time and money to get THEIR cases heard by the courts. Laws were ruled unconstitutional that prevented THEIR legally recognized union. If you want to marry your dog or your sister's daughter, then YOU spend your money and time to fight it out in the courts, stop being lazy and try to piggy-back on the hard work of these gay couples. As for making a mockery of marriage - I have two neighbors, they've been together for 35 years. One built a business and had 50 employees for years. The other is a Purple-heart winner from Korea. These men just married last year. They will live out their last years together. Meanwhile we have Trump marrying a new woman when the last one shows a wrinkle in her skin. No, dude - gay people have not made a mockery of marriage - that happened long before they could marry. - - - Updated - - - What privilege are you denied? Well, then get off your lazy arse and fight for it like gay couples did.
Then get off your lazy arse and fight for them. Gay couples spent millions and many long hours fighting for their rights in the courts - why you think you are entitled to their coat-tails is beyond me. But please - list any rights or privileges that a gay person has that you do not. My wife and I married because it was the tradition for couples who love each other to get married and celebrate with others ... just like it is now the tradition for gay couples to get married and celebrate with others.
You are rambling, not that I am upset ... Marriage, the law, is not worried should men and women marry but not have children. Though it protects such couples, and even gives them unique benefits, such as special tax breaks, the gist of the law is to keep kids safe. Deductions are for kids. The law gets very serious over child support and care of children in the family unit. But those couples are breeders. Homosexuals do not breed to produce kids. Sure the lesbian can, but do you believe she has some real interest in coitus with a man? When arguments are about rights in the constitution, as well as the claim of equal rights, then it does include every one of us. We should all be included and not excluded. The decision by the SC court is full of flaws. Tossing Trump at me gets you nowhere. I never have had an interest in whom he marries. The law is the law or it used to be. A lot of us that are not married chafe at the bit that the marriage laws exclude those who are not married. What the hell happened to our rights? Then those who marry over one woman get prosecuted. What is up with that and why would you defend that? The author of the article actually is engaged in polyamory. She and her boyfriend have sex with others. She thinks they will remain close. I think he will find a better deal as she will and they will part. The child they have probably will end up suffering. At their ages, they still live in the world of the immature.
So what is your problem? You have the same rights as a gay single person - the courts did not change that. You have the right to marry. A gay person cannot marry multiple partners any more than you can. If you want to fight the privileges of marriage - then why did you have to bring gay people into it? They have no more privileges than a heterosexual couple who is married. Seems as if you threw the whole gay thing in to try and pretend that gay people were getting something special. What right or privilege does a gay individual now have that you do not also have?
I got rid of the hostile sort of flame part to get to what you actually did say. I am telling you that you believe the homosexuals lacked rights that they now have, and I lack those rights as well. If you can list them for the homosexuals, it will be a snap for you to list my own. So, you wanted to celebrate so you needed marriage. I have married two times but divorced both women. I dearly love my children. I even got to love the children both wives presented me prior to marriage. Thing is, with the first wife, the father was a criminal and deadbeat. I took care of his kids and later our daughter. The IRS really wants you to prove you are responsible for the care of the kids by the other father. Does that sound like rights to you? Wife 2 had two former husbands. Both were lousy at paying child support. So I fed and housed those kids of two other men. She was a hot woman you need to understand. Donald has nothing to brag about compared to my former wives. So why did I marry the two women? Actually I did desire kids. I desired kids of my blood line. Homosexuals in general do not have that same problem. I frankly believe you favor homosexuals over the rights of those not married.
Asinine argument. You are blaming gay people for your poor life choices. A gay single person has no different privileges than you do - so I'm not understanding why you feel they have special treatment. What right or privilege does a gay person have that you do not?
It doesn't. It has a few privileges. Being gay would have no effect on those privileges of marriage - no more or less. I don't get why you have the need to drag the gay thing into what is basically a discussion of Marriage Privileges that are the SAME for heterosexual couples.
I believe had you read the article in full, the woman brought them in. I cut and pasted an article. But again, if all of us are equal, why do homosexuals claim that now they have more rights? That proves they believe they have more rights. And since it proves they believe they have more rights, it puts the rest of us at a disadvantage. So why do you believe both that homosexuals gained rights yet defend that some of us do not have those rights? Suppose for the heck of it, I took in a person and cared for them. I can't have the rights homosexuals got that you favor. Why the heck would I need to marry just to have rights? Remember they did this based on the 14th amendment where they told us all it was to make people all equals. As we speak, you expect me to fight for rights. Based on your claim homosexuals spent money. But must rights be purchased?
I am not passing judgement nor putting you down. Clearly you have an affinity for homosexuals. And believe me, I neither mind nor care. But it seems to cloud your perspective. Homosexuals prayed to the court it was about rights. They cited the 14th amendment. If you do not agree with them, I hope to find out why. - - - Updated - - - I won't deal with all of your questions for one reason. The way you talk bad about me. Why can't you discuss and not try to put other posters down?
Gay Americans do not claim they have "more" privileges - they said they now have the same privileges as other Americans. Just answer one question. What right or privilege do gay Americans now have that you do not?
Well, the same rights and privilege that they claim they were deprived of having. Rights really would actually be called out as for the married or unmarried were marriage a factor. But the way homosexuals put it, they were deprived of rights. i used to ask them the question you ask of me. I never got a satisfactory reply. - - - Updated - - - So they ran to the supreme court over privileges? What privileges did they not have before the SC decision?
What right or privilege do gay Americans have that you do not? A single gay American has the same rights and privileges that you do. A married heterosexual couple has privileges that a gay single person does not - that did not change.
If you check the constitution, it says nothing at all that marriage confers more rights nor priviledges. This of course can be claimed about matters of law, but not the constitution. So, so homosexuals could have privileges, the rest of us can pound sand or pay to take it to court? So, homosexuals set themselves aside as unique people? Speaking constitutionality of course.
The privilege to marry their life partner under the SAME restrictions as heterosexual Americans. Nothing SPECIAL, just the SAME.
