Polyamory next?

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know, (rhetorically speaking) were we living in 1820, none of this would be argued. Back then, polygamy was entirely legal.
     
  2. robini123

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    Dodge noted, I take said dodge as an admittance that polygamy in and of itself causes no harm.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you for categorizing my post. I admit I never so far have done that to your posts.

    But since you claim polygamy causes no harm, who would I be to not agree with you?
     
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    What would be the basis of a disagreement on the topic of polygamy?
     
  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have no idea.

    I believe I am the poster that started this topic. Will verify this of course.
     
  6. robini123

    robini123 Well-Known Member

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    What is the purpose of the OP?
     
  7. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This came due to what a woman said. Her opening remarks are linked too.

    By Sara Burrows
    JUNE 30, 2015

    Open her link and read her story. She advocates for what she calls polyamory.
     
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    What is your opinion of her views?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My view is that it is up to her and her boyfriend to decide on what makes them happy.

    What is your opinion?
     
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    Polyamory has been around a long time. People mistake Poly for 'swinging'. It isn't.
     
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    As I see no harm in polygamy I support it, but as I am a one woman man I do not practice it.
     
  12. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She is not talking of marriage. She is talking of multiple sex partners.
     
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    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can't think of any incentives we give folks for being married.



     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    No I'm not. It still depends on what actually happens.

    In all reality yes same sex marriage could possibly lead to polyamorous marriage but the chances are equally great that it won't. Hence the fallacy.
     
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    Look at what you are calling incentives. Two people who are living as one, can: put the income the couple earns into an IRA the couple owns, write off the expenses the couple incurs against income the couple earns, don't have to create individual returns for individual lives they aren't leading, can choose between the benefit programs the couple earned... you understand none of these things gives that couple an advantage over anyone single?

    These accommodations try not to drive an unnecessary legal wall between two people who have agreed to live one life. Those "incentives" are ways you can live as one couple, instead of two singles, and not have to pay extra for that life choice. And it doesn't even get you all the way there, your benefit #7 is people living a shared life (usually) pay more in taxes. That's why we still give them the option to file single returns, if they really want to do all that work.

    It's like arguing an "incentive" to become blind is you can take your dog into Starbucks.




     
  17. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Apparently you say no to TurboTax.

    Why not tell them what you told me?
     
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    This part really appeals to me
    I believe all ^^^ are usually why marriages fail... chokes the life out of you

    I almost wish she kept gay marriage out of it, marriage is a choice and everyone should be allowed to choose, perhaps they want to be married AND polyamorous like her.

    .. I say bring it lol
     
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    I say you do not understand what TurboTax wrote. Read that first sentence again. The advantages they are talking about are compared to the same couple, not filing jointly. Nothing listed gives the couple a reason to choose to live one life in the first place.

    No need to tell TurboTax this, they know. They even told you in that first paragraph that the "advantages" of filing jointly are that you can avoid many of the "penalties" of being married. The law is not trying to incentivize people to marry, it is trying not to penalize the ones who do.




     
  20. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are right.

    How the heck can I misunderstand this from Turbotax when clearly they wrote it. :roll:

     
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    I appreciate your recognizing that.



     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Rolling eyes must have not shown up on your system.

    That was sarcasm.
     
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    Nether am I.

    And your point is?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Isn't telling you her point a good way to make the point?
     
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    No. I want to know what you think as I am not having a conversation with her. Perhaps you should review the rules as a link should support rather than make your argument and the OP should include enough personal input to stimulate a civil debate.
     

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