Pope Francis Reportedly Calls For ‘Civil Union Law’ For Same-Sex Couples, A Break From Catholic....

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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Ok, how were the generations to pass one the genetic components procreated? Not someone that believes in discrimination of homosexuality, but something seems missing from that speculative hypothesis that would seem is untested... thus my question. A repressive gene? Or... But then the other question is, ‘so what?’ Is someone looking for the means to create a ‘cure’, create legitimacy?, what? Should it matter? I like women, but have preferences... should we work to figure if that is genetic? If so, why?
     
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    Must be why dogs are four legged.
     
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    ~ This Pope is too kissy with Xi Ping - letting the CCP have their own bastardized version of Jesus.
    I say the Pope is too pooped to pop ! :no:
     
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    That does sound like a story emanating from the Catholic Church.

    From my several gay friends through life, I think a genetic explanation is far more credible and likely than societal pressure and sin.
     
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    Horny little creatures, eh? :nod:
     
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    I don't know all the answers, but I do read alot.

    There are genetic explanations for many aspects of behavior and health.
     
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    My little female Papillon does it all the time to my granddaughter. It's to show dominance.

    I know homosexuals want to assume it's genetic, yet homosexuality was unheard of in Western Europe before the middle of the last century. Lawrence of Arabia's best friend said in his official biography that he would have loved to have had an affair with him, but people have to understand the era he lived in and that it was unthinkable then. The mere thought would have repulsed Lawrence.

    I also read a magazine from the 1980's about the Belle Epoque in France, and it also said that although Lesbianism was laughed at, the idea of homosexuality in men was something unheard of - and as we know, Paris certainly wasn't known then for its morality. This is why I believe it's a societal problem, and that homosexuals are victims.
     
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    It was a Greek Orthodox bishop that said it, and he was quoting Saint Porphyrios, who was an amazingly virtuous and charismatic Saint. Here are two quotes from his book Wounded by Love:

    "...Man has such powers that he can transmit good or evil to his environment. These matters are very delicate. Great care is needed. We need to see everything in a positive frame of mind. We mustn’t think anything evil about others. Even a simple glance or a sigh influences those around us. And even the slightest anger or indignation does harm. We need to have goodness and love in our soul and to transmit these things..."

    "...When we speak evil about someone, an evil power proceeds from within us and is transmitted to the other person, just as the voice is transmitted on sound waves, and in point of fact the other person suffers evil. It is something like the bewitchment of the evil eye, when someone has evil thoughts about others. This occurs through our own indignation. We transmit our evil in a mystical way. It is not God who provokes evil, but rather people’s wickedness. God does not punish, but our own evil disposition is transmitted to the soul of the other in a mysterious way and does evil..."
     
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    With my homosexual friends, including college roommates, I have never had the discussion regarding the genetic part.

    That is, I'm not sure that homosexuals WANT to assume it's genetic. Those are your words only.

    Was homosexuality unheard of in Western Europe, or simply not discussed in public? That was how much of the US, and likely Western Europe too, handled the matter of priests sexually assaulting boys. A conspiracy of silence if you will. As demonstrated in the fine movie "Spotlight" a few years back, everybody knew it was happening, but people just didn't talk about it.

    Human behavior 101
     
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    Clinton started a program of giving federal funds to private institutions that incorporated clubs and classes relating to homosexuality. By chance, I happened to pick up my granddaughter when she was at the vulnerable age of 13, and ready to join a club in school about befriending Lesbians. I freaked and that was the end of that.

    My grandson who was physically young for his age, was told by his advisor to attend a freshman class in college that again had to do with homosexuality, and by the Grace of God neither of them succumbed to the pressure. At the time the proselytizing had just started, and after hearing a Russian parliamentarian say that they don't have a population problem, so why would they proselytize homosexuality kind of made me suspicious as to the actual motive behind it.

    My experiences with my grandchildren was about two decades ago, so homosexuality has to be a lot more prevalent today. I definitely believe there is a spiritual component to it, and that it is a societal sickness. As for the Catholic Church, it happened again because of our fallen society, and oddly enough, I recall a priest on EWTN that actually encouraged homosexuals to become priests not realizing that their weakness would make them prone to abuse others. When the scandal broke, he stopped.
     
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    I tried to treat my children as independent and rational individuals. Of course there is the matter of age as to when they achieve that status, but I try to treat youngsters as capable of thought and analysis on their own. Maybe because that was the way I was treated as a youngster.

    Organized religion works against that to some degree, as one must buy into the dogma and such.
     
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    The pope...taking a knee before the new world order
     
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