Proof of citizenship to vote?

http://www.azfamily.com/news/must-voters-have-to-prove-citizenship-to-register-198683771.html

I support the law and believe that voting is a right reserved for taxpaying constituents, citizens. As long as illegals think they can come here and vote themselves perks, welfare social benefits the US economy will continue to decline, debt will continue to increase.

 

I voted "no," though in large part because I think non-citizens should be able to vote when living on U.S. territory.

 

I have to show ID to buy a gun, why shouldn't I show ID to vote?

 

Of course voters should have to show proof of citizenship. When I went to renew my driver's license (in Florida), I had to show a birth certificate. And when I presented a copy, they sent me home to bring them back the original (from 1946). Amazing that I still even have it after all these years.

Voting should be every bit as strict, if not stricter. Lenient voting laws are just another encouragement to aliens to come here illegally, and then work to change our laws against us.

 

Yeah, you need to stop those 88 people nationwide from cheating the system.

 

Yes, it should be required to vote.

 

I agree with Redalgo. You have rights while living in the us so why not the right to vote as well.

 

Oh sure. What could go wrong? Hell, let them run for office. Foreigners voting and being voted for surely couldn't hurt America whatsoever. Oh, and make sure that they keep not paying taxes.

 

You may only have 88 non-citizens on your island of Australia, but in America, we have an open border with a third world nation, and tens of millions of illegal aliens. Tens of millions. You don't think that can influence an election?

 

What about someone who is a citizen, but is to poor to pay taxes?

 

find a way to give every Citizen proof ill vote yes

 

... Why?

 

Of course proof of citizenship should be a prerequisite to voting. Why give an illegal alien any rights at all?

 

seems like the right thing to do i like the idea of having rights regardless of what nation im in

 

Denizens who are not citizens are still contributing members of society living within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S. whose livelihoods are affected by the public policies of American government and, as fellow human beings, should be entitled to a broad array of social rights.

 

As far as I'm concerned, anyone who is here illegally has no rights, except the right to be detained and deported. Those here on visas are hardly involved enough in US politics to qualify to elect leaders. I see nothing wrong with keeping voting to citizens only.

 

Sure, why not? U.S. voters are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves whether or not to trust a foreign-born candidate on a case-by-case basis. And undocumented immigrants and visiting workers do pay tax - though perhaps not in all of the forms many citizens would prefer. They are also more reluctant to use state benefits than Americans for fear of being deported after interacting with government employees, often go into tough neighborhoods and start up new businesses there, and further assist the economy by buying goods and services sold in the United States. Did I mention many of them satisfy demand for jobs most Americans do not have any interest in performing, help make a number of businesses more efficient by agreeing to accept competitively low wages, and thereby lower the prices for a number of goods and services Americans consume?

 

Those jobs would be filled quickly enough if they paid enough; having the illegals come and take such jobs is only depressing wages.

 

I respect your opinion but do not agree, though there is room for me to be persuaded on this issue. I take individual freedoms and civil rights very seriously. It makes me uncomfortable to deny them to anyone without having a highly-compelling reason for doing so.

I do not support protectionism to that extent and some businesses would fail if they had to offer enough money to attract American workers. Depressed wages are an acceptable outcome of market forces in action, so far as I am concerned.

 

I in turn appreciate looking out for freedoms and civil rights, as I advocate these above state tyranny, but that still doesn't lead me to conclude that illegal immigrants have a right to vote. I think it's the least their illegal highnesses can put up with for sneaking into this country.

 

AFAICT this is the biggest piece of Republican Bull(*)(*)(*)(*) that has come down the pike in a long time. I don't know about AZ but I think that even there you have to be registered to vote, and AFAICT, there is no way to become registered to vote unless you are a citizen. So ipso facto, this law is already in effect, is it not?

Now, yes, the registration process does not USUALLY require proof for your statement that you are a citizen, which is required on the form. But proof for anything you say on that form CAN be required if you are investigated and if you are proven not to be a citizen you stand guilty of a felony which will deport you at the least. There is no way that any pol could possibly pay enough people to take this risk to influence almost any election, no matter how small.

I've got an idea, let's have all the ones who want to have this silly law instead use the money it would cost to implement it used to actually investigate the claims of citizenship for all new applications for voter registration for maybe 2 years. If even ONE case of honest (not mistaken, but deliberate) voter fraud is found, fine, do what they say, ask everybody to ID themselves, TWICE. Once when they register and then again, every time they go to vote, the second time DESPITE the fact that the Election Judge has just pulled their name out of the list of registered voters and verified their address from it.

This Nazi ass idiocy they are proposing in the Fascist Imperial Republic of Arizona is nothing but pure bull(*)(*)(*)(*). It is aimed almost entirely at getting old people who may no longer have licenses and mainly poor people who can't afford a car, not to vote. Anybody saying anything else is either lying, talking out of their ass entirely or completely unaware of how the voting process works.

It's typical Republican tactics, look at their history, going all the way back to Hoover the only way they could win was to cheat.

 

BS BS BS

 

Let them run on a platform, and if people like it, then let them vote for them. That's what our elections should be about.

 

They can vote.

All they have to do is go to their country of origin when they have the urge.

They're not citizens, and what lunatic wants strangers to have a say in the operation of the US government?

DemocRAT lunatics, of course, not Americans.

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If they're not paying taxes, why should they have any say in how the taxes are spent or who gets taxed?

 

Voting isn't one of them.