Proof of citizenship to vote?

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Show proof of citizenship to vote?

Poll closed Mar 19, 2014.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Everyone pays taxes in various forms, even if many don't have to pay income tax. Which, by the way, should be abolished.
     
  2. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    A higher % of Australia's population are immigrants than yours.
     
  3. happy fun dude

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    Seeing as democracy is dead, it really doesn't matter.. Outlaw computer voting fraud machines and corporate bribery first.
     
  4. Mr_Truth

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    Funny how right wingers demand ID to vote but demand that there be no ID to buy weapons.
     
  5. darckriver

    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    Income tax - if their going to have it (and they obviously will forever), then tax everyone making over $50,000 some reasonable percentage of gross income; do away with 95% of IRS; zero loopholes; only citizens can vote (whether they paid income tax or not).
     
  6. darckriver

    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    Right wingers demand no ID to buy weapons??? Is that true?
     
  7. Mr_Truth

    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

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    Certainly true here among redneck types in Minnesota
     
  8. darckriver

    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    Minnesota has rednecks?
     
  9. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why be defeatist? We don't need to have to have the income tax "forever" - stop voting for the dolts who support it.

    But, oh yeah, they own the electoral system. That is all the (D) and (R) are actually good at anymore - maintaining their power and personal benefits at our expense. That is how governments die, or at least how they grow old and get ready to die.

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    Yep. Minnesota has plenty of yuppies, but it also has plenty of rednecks. They just don't tend to live in the same areas.
     
  10. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think if proof of citizenship is needed to vote then we have to stop allowing absentee ballots to be mailed in, why should you not need to prove who you are by mail, but have to if you show up in person?


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  11. Mayor Snorkum

    Mayor Snorkum Banned

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    The Mayor certainly does. What part of "shall not be infringed" is too intellectual for you to understand?

    Prosecute people who commit criminal acts with firearms.

    The ownership of mere property cannot be criminalized in a free nation.

    Nations that criminalize mere possession of anything aren't free nations.

    Explain why the possession of any object should be subject to criminal charges, up to and including RAM, if that object is stored in a manner consistent with safety?
     
  12. Mayor Snorkum

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    Absentee balloting should be limited to those who, by reason of physical disability, can't get to the polling place, and to members of the Armed Services and other FEDERAL agencies who are posted away from their home precincts on official business.

    But notice that while the RATS send absentee ballots to just about everyone, ever since Al Gore tried to stop their votes from being counted the US military is getting hosed by delayed ballots. This has to stop.

    But domestically? Being lazy should never be a good excuse not to get your ass to the polls on election DAY. If you're too lazy to do that, then you're too lazy to learn the issues and vote intelligently, and the country is better off if your lazy ass goes out and gets drunk, instead.

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    Minnesota had enough Americans in it that Al Franken lost the Senate Election in 2008.
     
  13. Mayor Snorkum

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    Something wrong with people showing ID when they show up to vote?

    What would that be, and, oh, by the way, how much does it cost for an honest citizen to present his driver's license to an honest citizen checking his name on a list of registered voters, when there's no cost to vote and the poll workers are all volunteers anyway?

    If you're so interested in saving money, start demanding King Obama, Fascist and Traitor, cut off the Court Jester's travel expenses.
     
  14. darckriver

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    I merely asked about requiring IDs to purchase firearms. What's that have to do with criminalizing firearms? I asked an honest question. You used it as a springboard into your monologue.
     
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    I would add in a fine of $50,000.00 for each person involved in denying a legit voter based on some technicality like the DL being expired for driving (but it's still a ID)

    there has to be a real consequence or some may be denied the right to vote

    for those that say that kinda abuse would never happen, I say fine, then no issue with adding $50,000.00 fine for if it ever does

    as for the military absentee ballots, have someone elses signature in authority validate the person's ballot is ligit, they would be responsible if it was not.. another 50k fine

    voting more then once.. 50k fine per vote




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  16. Mayor Snorkum

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    No, people who don't have the self-responsibility to keep their driver's license up-to-date lack the responsibility to understand the issues and candidates on the ballot.

    When it's legitimate, they should be prosecuted. But not by Attorney General Dick Holder, who dismissed the CONVICTIONS of his New Black Panther pals for their voter intimidation antics in 2008.

    Since that "someone else" would be the divisional officer, the appropriate punishment is courts-martial and prison.

    Plus 1 year in prison, consecutive, for each extra ballot.

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    You merely got a complete answer. What are you whining about? Too much information for the Low Information Voter?
     
  17. darckriver

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    I see continuity in thought isn't your forte'. I merely said, "Right wingers demand no ID to buy weapons??? Is that true?", to which I received the following rant:

    Uhh... a simple "Yes" would've been sufficient. LOL!!!!!!!! And you called that a complete answer to my question! :omfg: It's a complete answer alright. A complete answer to the imaginary voices that whisper gibberish questions in your head and that you pretend come from somewhere other than inside your own buzz-box..
     
  18. FreshAir

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    and there ya go, that is the problem, an ID is a ID, just because it's no longer valid for driving doesn't make it any less a picture ID

    so if my birthday is a few days before i vote, I would have to hurry down and get a new license or not be allowed to vote?

    your post alone proved why this will never work...


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  19. Mayor Snorkum

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    Actually, an official ID is an official ID until it expires. Then it's no longer official. Something wrong with preventing people too lazy to renew their ID on time from voting? We should be doing as much as possible to prevent as many lazy people from voting as we can....lazy people vote DemocRAT and socialist, and a free republic can't survive it's own retards if they can vote. 2012 proved that.

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    A simple yes would have allowed you to claim the Mayor said something else. Now you're arguing that you've been given too much information, and the Mayor hasn't even discussed his socks, his underwear, and how much toilet paper he uses. What a typical Low Information Voter you are.
     
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    maybe they have a job, maybe their birthday was yesterday and they can't make it, doesn't matter, it is a valid id, just not a valid drivers license

    thank you for admitting the rights real reason for voter ID, to prevent legitimate voters from voting

    is the reason the right doesn't want absentee ballots to require a ID because most republicans are too lazy to vote in person? if your gonna require ID, then every vote needs to be treated the same and require ID

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    Arguing? I merely asked a question. You are off on tangents of you own making. My question wasn't even an argumentative challenge! LoL!!! I was merely wondering whether it was true that the right were officially against IDs being required for firearm purchases in Minnesota. So I asked. Pretty simple. Then in your haste to conduct a rant, you read into my question a threat and decided to jump in feet first like Joe Ninja with your presumptuous litany - and you're still at it! Get a grip. Save your spiel for someone that's actually challenging your cherished beliefs.
     
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    Mostly Bwitish. Perth, for example, has more Bwits than Aussies.

    So. How many of those Bwits come from third world countries?
     
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    That's called INVASION. And traditionally you get shot for that. Good tradition.
     
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    NONSENSE !!! They are INVADERS who are pillaging the USA for hundreds of Billions$$$ in remittances and human services via the anchor baby racket. Just for example, Mexican illegal aliens rip $25 Billion/year in remittances out of the US economy, and re-insert it into the Mexican economy. They're "contributing" all right. Only problem is they're "contributing" TO MEXICO, at the expense of the USA.

    $25 Billion/year. The Vikings would be envious.

    Here's what else they're "contributing" >>>

    Harms of Immigration

    1. Americans lose jobs. (especially Whites due to affirmative action).

    2. Wage reduction.

    3. Tax $ lost (due to off books work + lower wages paid).

    4. Remittance $$$ lost. ($40 Billion year).

    5. Tax $$ lost to immigrants on welfare.

    6. Increased crime.

    7. Increased traffic congestion.

    8. Increased pollution.

    9. Overcrowding in hospital ERs.

    10. Overcrowding in recreational facilities.

    11. Overcrowding in government offices.

    12. Overcrowding in schools.

    13. Decrease in funds available for entitlements.

    14. Cultural erosion.

    15. Overuse of scarce resources (oil, fresh water, electricity, food, jobs, etc)
     
  25. stig42

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    ya that would suck why would i want that for some 1 else?
     

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