Proof positive no plane flew over the Pentagon

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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  3. Scott

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    That isn't what he posted .......
     
  5. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    I didn't watch the video because they're all a waste of time.

    The two page links all question the supposition that a 757, specifically flight 77, hit the pentagon. It offers no alternative nor do the pages specifically say flight 77 or a 757 did not hit the Pentagon.
     
  6. Hannibal

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  7. Scott

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    You pro-official version people got caught telling a lie to try to sway those viewers who don't take the time to click on links and look at info. You misrepresented the info the links led to in order to deceive them. Now, you'll duly tap dance around and try to obfuscate the issue. The only people you're going to sway are some of those who don't go back and read the discussion and look at the info. I urge the viewers to go back to this page,...
    http://www.politicalforum.com/9-11/...lane-flew-over-pentagon-9.html#post1061620179

    ...look at the info in the links, and read the discussion. One of those pro-official version posters here got caught in a lie and they are all trying to cover for him.
     
  8. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    More lies from you. You tried to lie about what he said and got busted. Then, instead of manning up and admitting your mistake, you childishly try to push it off on everyone else. Just like your constant lie that the evidence you present would sway whomever reads it. If that were true, the truther movement wouldn't be a handful of nuts who can't get anyone to believe them and would instead be a massive following of people. Can you point to a single person you have convinced with your bull(*)(*)(*)(*)? Try to make it a real person and not an imaginary friend. :lol:
     
  9. Scott

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    What's at issue here is whether the info in these links says that flight 77 hit the Pentagon.
    http://www.911hardfacts.com/report_15.htm
    http://www.911hardfacts.com/report_16.htm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XRMrMdn0NQ
    (good Pentagon analysis at 29:00 time mark)

    Back in post #88...
    http://www.politicalforum.com/9-11/...lane-flew-over-pentagon-9.html#post1061620179

    ...Hannibal said that the info in those links said that flight 77 hit the Pentagon. You pro-official version posters maintain that it says that and I say that it doesn't say that. All of the viewers who've taken the time to actually look at the info know that you people are full-of-it. The group of viewers whose support we are vying for here is the group that doesn't have the time to look at it. I suppose the way to show those people what those links say is for you pro-official version posters to copy and paste the exact quotes from the articles where it says that flight 77 hit the Pentagon or show the time mark in the video where it says that. If you don't do this, the viewers who don't have the time to look at the info will also know you pro-official version posters are full-of-it.

    We're waiting. Show us in those links where it says that flight 77 hit the Pentagon.

    I copied post #88.
     
  10. Hannibal

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    Once again, I encourage everyone to read and research.

    Find out for yourselves. Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon. The evidence shows it.
     
  11. Scott

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    Are you trying to confuse the viewers? You seem to be tap dancing around the issue. The issue is whether the info in these links says that flight 77 hit the Pentagon.
    http://www.911hardfacts.com/report_15.htm
    http://www.911hardfacts.com/report_16.htm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XRMrMdn0NQ
    (good Pentagon analysis at 29:00 time mark)

    In post #88 you said the info in those links said that flight 77 hit the Pentagon. If you don't copy and paste the exact quote or show the time mark of the video where it says that, the viewers will know you lied to try to mislead those who didn't have the time to actually look at the info.

    Here's what you posted in post #88.
    Please show us the exact quote or the time mark of the video where it says that.
     
  12. Hannibal

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    Do you see the quotation marks in post 88? That's the exact quote from your links. I agree with that quote.

    Go forth and read it for yourself.
     
  13. Scott

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    I just did a page search on both of the articles and it doesn't say that in either article. Did you find it in the video, or the articles? Please show us precisely where it says that.
     
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    I totally agree. Their "evidence" seems to be based on the fact that the government is not answering their questions the way the want them to.

    One question that was brought up that I have to comment on is this paragraph:

    A millimeter sized piece of twisted aluminum may not be able to identify an aircraft, but a millimeter sized piece of tissue can easily have enough DNA for identification.
     
  15. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Excellent point. Of course, Scott's "source" is lying in such an absurd way that it is hard to believe even truther's take it seriously. According to the moron who wrote it, the whole plane was gone. Is there evidence of this? No. Is there evidence that directly contradicts this? Yes. Numerous pictures exist showing sizeable pictures of the aircraft. Pieces of the aircraft's skin large enough to clearly show AA markings and paint scheme. Eyewitnesses who saw various parts. None of this can be accepted by dishonest truthers because it interferes with their overwhelming need to lie their collective asses off about 9/11.

    It is a known truther fallacy that only pictures they want to accept count as evidence. Anything that shows them what they DON'T want to see is faked. Scott is a prime example of this kind of reaction. Shown pictures from various space agencies that back up and reinforce the fact we went to the moon are dismissed out of hand by Scott. Why? Because pictures are fakeable, so cannot be used as evidence ever ever ever..... unless it is a truther (or other conspiratard) demanding why no such pictures exist. It is the perfect catch 22. They won't believe without pictures that show them exactly what they demand they need to see to believe yet they won't believe pictures that show they are wrong because they can be faked. They have no evidence the pictures are faked. It is just a pathetic excuse to dismiss evidence they can't refute any other way.
     
  16. LoneStrSt8

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    I remember having a discussion on another board with a truther,and I had asked her What she thought about the look of horror on the faces of the elderly couple who saw the second plane hit the WTC, knowing their son,daughter in law and grandchild were on board.

    All she came back with was 'good actors'.....
     
  17. Scott

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    I hadn't intended to talk about Apollo here but you brought it up. You're being very simplistic and only telling half of the story. Pictures are fakable and fakable pictures don't make the mountain of hoax proof go away.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4001964&postcount=1

    If there is super clear proof that the footage was faked in a studio, fakable pictures don't make it go away.

    Now, when are you pro-official version people going to show us where in the links I posted that it says that flight 77 hit the Pentagon? If you maintain that it says that in the links, you should be able to show us where. Copy and paste the exact quote. Show us the time mark of the video.
     
  18. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    No, I gave your entire pathetic excuse for dismissing all the pictures. The fact your claims make you look like a complete fool isn't my problem. Maybe you should have actually come up with some good excuse for dismissing the pictures instead of just crying that they were faked simply because pictures can be faked.

    Yet you don't have ANY proof that the footage was faked in a studio. You've gotten your ass handed to you every single time. Your unwillingess to face reality isn't our problem.
     
  19. Scott

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    Hay Patriot-

    You missed this part of my post.
    Are you trying to make me forget about this by changing the subject?
     
  20. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    I already responded to that part. Funny how truthers get all butthurt when someone doesn't respond to every one of their points when they themselves run like scared school girls from a spider when one exposes their lunacy for what it is.
     
  21. Scott

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    You tap danced around it. When are you going to actually respond to it?

    You maintain that in these links...
    http://www.911hardfacts.com/report_15.htm
    http://www.911hardfacts.com/report_16.htm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XRMrMdn0NQ
    (good Pentagon analysis at 29:00 time mark)

    ...it says that flight 77 hit the Pentagon. I read both articles and watched the part about the Pentagon in the video and saw nothing of the sort. All I ask is that you show us exactly where it says that.
     
  22. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Do your two html links talk about Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon and the questions they have in regards to the official story? Yes or no. They offer no other theory and are only talking about Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon. That is my claim. You lying about what I said doesn't change that. You lying about what I said while whining about someone else supposedly lying about what your links said is both hysterical and ironic.
     
  23. Scott

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    This guy's just trying to confuse the viewers. Go back to post #87...
    http://www.politicalforum.com/9-11/...lane-flew-over-pentagon-9.html#post1061620019

    ...and start reading there. The pro-official version poster Hannibal misrepresented what the links said to mislead the viewers who don't take the time to click on them and look at the info. Now the other pro-official version posters are trying to cover for him. I assure you pro-official version people that you look totaly silly when you tap dance around and try to obfuscate this issue. One of your guys has been caught in a lie and the viewers know it. Only people who don't believe their own arguments have to lie. All of you know that 9/11 was an inside job as well as the truthers know it.
     
  24. Patriot911

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    Thanks for proving I was telling the truth and you were lying about it. :lol: Keep dancing, Scott.

    Care to explain how you lie your ass off by pretending your "evidence" convinces anyone who reads it, yet the ranks of the truthtards continues to shrink despite your best efforts?

    Care to explain why you always run away when confronted by the truth that proves your claims are nothing but the whimsical imaginings of a very deranged individual?

    If you are actually telling the truth, you should be able to defend your claims, not have to resort to running away or blatantly lying.

    Explain to us again how the park service emptied the National Mall so there would be no witnesses to Flight 77 flying over the Pentagon despite the massive list of other areas the flight would have had to fly over ALL of which would have people out and about on a nice September morning. Oh, we know you've changed your stance and are now trying to pretend Flight 77 came in at a completely different angle and somehow magically intersected whatever it is you like to pretend hit the Pentagon (which you've never really been able to explain) without a SINGLE WITNESS noticing there were two planes.

    And you wonder why people think truthers are coo coo like coco puffs. :lol:
     
  25. Scott

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    Anyone who actually clicks on these links will see that there is nothing in them that says that flight 77 hit the Pentagon as these pro-official version people maintain.
    http://www.911hardfacts.com/report_15.htm
    http://www.911hardfacts.com/report_16.htm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XRMrMdn0NQ
    (good Pentagon analysis at 29:00 time mark)

    The pro-official version people got caught in a major lie here and now they're tap dancing around trying to muddy the waters and obfuscate the issue to reduce the number of people who hear find out about it. You can pretend all you want, but your credibility is shot. Hannibal tried to mislead the viewers who don't take the time to click on the links and look at the info by misrepresenting what the info was. Go back to post #87 and start reading there to see it all.

    If you people still maitain that Hannibal was right, you should copy and paste the part where it says that, or show us the time mark in the video at which it say that. If you don't do that and just tap dance around, all the people who look at the info will know that you're all a bunch of liars.
     

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