Question for the JFK Conspiracy nuts

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    They are the same weapon and no photographic evidence of any kind shows otherwise. TRhe sling attachment is the same
     
  2. 10aces

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    Maybe you should actually look at the photos before opening your mouth.

    The attachment points are different, and the photos prove it.

    The problem with you and others like you is the inability to look beyond government official BS reports. You won't even look at anything that suggests anything outside of what the WC reports.

    It's pretty (*)(*)(*)(*) clear that the commision came to a pre determined conclusion about what they were going to report. To have looked and found a conspiracy would have opened up a can of worms, that could have toppled the US bureacracy and the US military.

    If they did it believing they were preserving the Republic, they were very very wrong. If they did it from a position of self interest, then hopefully those who are dead, are burning in hell.
     
  3. krew09

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    *you were TOLD he shot a police officer

    *it has already been proven he had CIA ties

    * do you know what he said before he got clipped? "I'm a patsy"
    look it up

    * the media has brain washed people into the idea that common sense is to be thrown out the window,and to deem all alternate explanations other than the one given you by moron mass media,"nuts","fringe"

    #any moron can do minimal research to discover that conspriacy is littered throughout history,and that government lies.....I know you have a lot of trust in your government but you very naive.

    It's so easy for propaganda to work, and dissent to be mocked.
    Harold Pinter

    Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves.
    Eric Hoffer

    "The propaganda system allows the U.S. Leadership to commit crimes without limit and with no suggestion of misbehavior or criminality; in fact, major war criminals like Henry Kissinger appear regularly on TV to comment on the crimes of the derivative butchers." Edward S. Herman, political economist and author
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    "When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic." Dresden James.

    "Today the world is the victim of propaganda because people are not intellectually competent. More than anything the United States needs effective citizens competent to do their own thinking." - William Mather Lewis
     
  4. 10aces

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    Yup, we are own worst enemy.
     
  5. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    as I proved earlier,the lone nut theorists NEVER look at anything that goes against the official story,thats all they ever look at is the official disproven b.s reports.anything that does not go along with the official version,they do this.:ignore:
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    :woot: save your breath,the lone nut theorists only see what they want to see.you might as well be talking to a brick wall.
     
  7. 10aces

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    Pretty much any conspiritorial topic involving the US gov is only backed up by "official" gov BS reports. Those who support the BS and believe they are some kind of patriot because they do.

    They represent the compromise this country has become.

    They do NOT want to rock the boat, their self interests supercede the future of this nation and even they future of their childrens children. They are a DNA remnant of what their forefathers were. Sacrifice is not in their makeup or character. The most unfortunate aspect, is their weaknesses and lack of spirit is dragging many a good people into the abyss this country will eventually become.
     
  8. Mushroom

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    No, I actually look at this very logically, and also look at past assassinations.

    History is full of "lone" assassins. Leon Czolgosz, Charles J. Guiteau, Sirhan-Sirhan, Yigal Amir, James Earl Ray, Carl Weiss, John Hinkley, Mark Chapman, An Jung-geun, and others.

    Then you have the groups that do assasinations. These are much less common, and are not as successful. Gavrilo Princip was a member of such a group, as was John Wilkes Booth, Nathuram Godse, and not many more. In almost all cases an attempt by a group ends in failure. And even when it does not, the entire group is quickly found out.

    Now we are talking about a "conspiracy" that has lasted now for almost 50 years. With not a single individual ever comming forward that was actually involved. Not a single person.

    Now everybody knows how much the Government bleeds secrets. Heck, even the #2 man in the FBI turned over evidence to a reporter over something as simple as a break-in. And we are supposed to believe some kind of conspiracy involving all of this happened, and it has been kept secret for 48 years?

    This is why I asked the question that I did. Why did LHO kill a police officer? But amazingly, even this appears to be covered in a cloud of conspiracy and lies to some people. It makes me wonder if they actually believe in any simple historical events. Or is in that mindset everything in existance some kind of conspiracy.

    I guess I am the opposite. Many people here appear to have never met a conspiracy theiry they did not like. Myself, I have yet only met a single conspiracy theory that has any kind of credability. And that is because no more then 3-4 people ever knew of the incident first hand.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    gives standing ovation.the lone nut theorists wouldnt even last one minute against a first grader in a debating contest.they would lose to that first grader in the fact you actually got to ADDRESS the points brought up to you,not dismiss it and say-that proves nothing,blah blah ,blah,blah.if they debated the same way there they do here,that teacher would say-so and so,are you going to say anything? your not saying whats wrong with his points,your just saying that doesnt prove anything.just staying quiet like you are and just saying that doesnt prove anything,you lose the dabate son.I told you before we debate,that you have to address what they say but your not even trying to counter what they say.you lose.

    or like i said earlier,if they debated the same way in a court of law like they do here,the judge would laugh them out of of the courtroom saying-son your not saying anything,you got to actually try and refute what he says and just saying that doesnt prove anything to this person,well you clearly have no case.come back when your ready to at least address his points.not saying anything doesnt cut it in a court of law son.

    we know it,they know it to be true.:mrgreen::-D
     
  10. 10aces

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    The US ran the Phoenix program in Vietnam, it was an ASSASINATION program. How many of the US military personnel who were involved in that program have come forward and admitted assasinating someone?
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    you got him there.:-D
     
  12. Mushroom

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    You need first to find out what the Phoenix Program actually was.

    Yes, it did killings. Just like any other military operation. But the "assasinations" were not the "sniper in a hideout" type of assasinations. Basically they were conducted like the one against OBL. They find the location of VC leaders, and then raid their house and kill them, taking out any intelligence found.

    This is not anything even remotely like what happened to President Kennedy. In fact, it is so far away that there is no comprison.
     
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    You don't have clue.
     
  14. Mushroom

    Mushroom Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I am sorry, I totally forgot.

    It is a conspiracy also.

    This is why I never take the magic pill that turns somebody into a conspiracy nut. Because most that I have seen appear to have never found a conspiracy they did not like. Man on the moon, cold war, JFK, Vietnam, NWO, MLK, MK-Ultra, World Jewery, Zionism, Masons, Corporate control of the country, 9-11, AIDS, Flight 800, the list just seems to go on and on.

    And I rarely do not find a conspiracy nut that does not accept most or all of them as being proof of some kind of conspiracy. I honestly believe that such beliefs constitute some kind of mental illness.

    No evidence? The conspiracy covers it up. Contradictory statements? The conspiracy made them change their story. Somebody involved in a conspiracy dies (even decades later)? Why, they were silenced to keep the truth from comming out.

    If all of this was so true, I often wonder why "they" never go out after the people that are spreading "the truth". I mean, if somebody actually had proof of a conspiracy, would "they" not try to silence them no matter what? Never seems to happen though, does it?
     
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    well he made THAT perfectly clear a long time ago in his opening post on this thread here.:mrgreen::-D
     
  16. 10aces

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    Blah, blah, blah....what you babblin about?
     
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    From Wikipedia --

    That is so much like what happened in Dealey Plaza, isn't it?
     
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    That's because there are so many wonderful theories for us to laugh at!

    What about David Lifton's conspiracy theory that he put forth in Best Evidence that JFK's body was stolen somewhere between Dallas and Bethesda and surgically altered to show bullets coming from the rear?

    Lifton writes a New York Times bestseller, and is widely viewed as being a serious conspiracy researcher, except for one little item... any pre-med student can tell the difference between a wound made ante-mortum and a wound made post-mortum.

    Unless, of course, this too was covered up by the vast conspiracy.

    Or how about Bonar Menninger's theory as published in Mortal Error that the assassination was an tragic accident - it was SA Glen Hickey in the Secret Service follow-up car accidentally discharging his AR-15 rifle?

    So there it is -- the Secret Service accidentally shot JFK, then surgically altered the body to cover-up their boo-boo.

    Case closed.
     
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    translation is_ I got nothing,i cant counter anything so I just go blah blah blah blah all the time like all oswald apologists do.
     
  20. Mushroom

    Mushroom Well-Known Member

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    I might bother, if you actually had some real proof, not some kind of conspiracy that contradicts many other conspiracies.
     
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    All I know is the video clearly shows JFK's frontal lobe being blown to bits by either a long range bullet or a tree limb...and I don't see any oak trees in the video frame when it JFK's head explodes from the front knocking him and his brains backwards onto the trunk, where Jackie O quickly gathers the bloody brain fragments as if they were marbles scattered about the floor.

    and the media tells us he got shot from the back by a drunk janitor. :rolleyes:

    I think I'll believe my own eyes:omg: on this one.
     
  22. Mushroom

    Mushroom Well-Known Member

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    Anybody that knows how bullets impact the human body would know that this alone meant he was hit from the rear. Look at any bullet wound, and the exit wound is much larget then the entry.

    If his "frontal lobe was blown to bits", that obviously means he was struck from the rear. If he was struck from the front, then the back of his head would have been "blown to bits".
     
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    I am amazed that some people still believe the official story about the JFK assassination.
    He and his brother later were enemies of the arms industry that runs the United states.
     
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    nope. not true. ever shot a aligator? then you know that skull fragments go everywhere from the point of entry.

    and how do you explain all the brain matter on the trunk? shouldn't it be all over the driver's back? :rolleyes:
     
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    So you're saying he was killed by the Arms Industry--the companies that make weapons?
     
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