Question for those amongst the "Abortion should be legal" crowd

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Anders Hoveland, Apr 25, 2016.

  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well...not all of them. Just the male ones, the female ones just want the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) to suffer painfully for having the sex they do not get from the guys they married for Christ that are screwing the sexratary instead.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I support following the law, whatever it is, or facing the consequences of violating the law, whatever they might be. It is a different issue than what I think the the law should be.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    So you support the abortion laws as they are now?
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My understanding is that there are a lot of different abortion laws depending on where one lives. My preference is for those in the UK, but this is really a tangent. People should follow the laws as they exist or face the consequences. If the laws change, then they should follow those or face the consequences.
     
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    greatdanechick Well-Known Member

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    And women who miscarry would be subject to this investigation you realize right? Women who unexpectedly lost their baby would have to endure this invasion of privacy at a horrifically difficult time.
     
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    greatdanechick Well-Known Member

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    And what of the fathers? I mean surely the fathers would be subject to legal persecution too right? I mean the baby didn't just appear in the womb of its own accord.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the law called for that, then yes. If the law does not call for that, then no.
     
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    greatdanechick Well-Known Member

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    Well the law calls for neither because abortion is legal. Can you imagine the impact making abortion illegal would have on our already overcrowded jails? Or the impact on the time it would take to solve violent crimes because the legal system would be investigating every pregnancy that didn't go to term. It's totally impractical to jail people for abortions.
     
  9. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Yup, and just getting a charge or going to court would be quite the challenge.

    No Anti-Choicer has EVER said how a woman is "suspected" of having an abortion..............
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course they would....it is absolutely required that the clitoris is closely examined by touch and best by the only muscle attached at only one end, do to it's obvious ability to taste...uh.....guilt.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There would be nobody to jail. They would all die in back alley abortion clinics that use rusty pruning shears and such, or so we are led to believe would be the case if abortion were outlawed. Trojan condom stock would go through the roof if it were outlawed. Beyond that, I don't really see that it would make much difference either way.
     
  12. FoxHastings

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    Then why make it illegal.....just so some can enjoy knowing women may die horrible deaths??
     
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    greatdanechick Well-Known Member

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    What are you talking about?
     
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    I think he's talking about all the control freak misogynists who will volunteer to check out women to see if they had an abortion....
     
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    Colonel Angus.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did not say it should be made illegal.
     
  17. FoxHastings

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    Oh, so you're Pro-Choice.....good But that didn't answer the question, did it???


    Quote Originally Posted by FoxHastings View Post

    Then why make it illegal.....just so some can enjoy knowing women may die horrible deaths??
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't say I was pro-choice except to the extent that I said I would prefer our laws more resemble those of the UK on this issue.



    Different people have different reasons for supporting or opposing or not even caring about a law. You can assign whatever motives to those who disagree with your position you so desire. That makes it true for you, but perhaps not for others.
     
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    If you want abortion legal that's pretty much Pro-Choice even if you don't want to admit it.


    Sounds like this is your preference: """"""There would be nobody to jail. They would all die in back alley abortion clinics that use rusty pruning shears and such, or so we are led to believe would be the case if abortion were outlawed. Trojan condom stock would go through the roof if it were outlawed. Beyond that, I don't really see that it would make much difference either way."""
     
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    So I am pro-choice and anti-abortion and have taken a position as to which? I have no ovaries. I don't really care if women go to prison for breaking the law. I don't really care if they are forced to carry children to term. I don't really care if they have back-alley abortions. I do have opinions and what I like about the UK system relates to the 2 doctor provisions. I am of the opinion that likely these things are still rubberstamped, but it at least doubles the chances a patient might actually have a conversation with someone in which they must articulate a justification for the abortion such that should she have one, it will likely position her better to cope with what will come for her emotionally afterwards.
     
  21. FoxHastings

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    :roflol: EXPOSED!


    Ya, you don't care....as long as women are treated like criminals and controlled.......:roflol:


    You guys can never hide it for long....the misogyny and control issues ....

    Hey....at least you didn't hide it behind some wimpy, "oh the poor little baaaaaabies that women are MURdering"....
     
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    I was confused by the mention of the clitoris. Maybe he meant cervix? I'm not sure the clitoris is going to say much about abortion haha. Or maybe the gross misogynists would just want to examine that too because they're gross. The idea of women having to be examined for proof is horrific.
     
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    greatdanechick Well-Known Member

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    would you care if the woman was your sister, mother, daughter or friend? I mean dang, as a woman it kind of hurts to hear someone say they basically don't give a s#%* what happens to you.
     
  24. FoxHastings

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    You have to understand, they really believe no woman they know would ever, or has ever, had an abortion.....they really think that.:roll:

    They also think every woman they know took great joy in being pregnant and forced to give birth and sacrificed nothing to bring a human into the world..they do NOT appreciate what their own mother had to go through to bring them into the world, they do not care.
     
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    If they break the law, they deserve whatever punishment the law provides for them....and your being a woman has nothing to do with it. The number of people I basically don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about what happens to are legion and their ranks are growing. Sympathy makes poor public policy, but I suppose wanting the patient to have 2 doctors to talk to have the opportunity to discuss the situation with someone confidentially could be construed as some degree of sympathy. Currently there is no logical reason to have either unfettered abortion rights nor to have absolutely no abortion rights, nor to have something in between, thus this is just a red herring.
     

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