Race and Crime

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Conservative Democrat, Jul 25, 2020.

  1. Mircea

    Mircea Well-Known Member

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    No, their culture did. I was just point out the irony of refusing to name kids after White people who practiced slavery in favor of White Muslim Arabs who not only practiced slavery, but started the entire African slave trade and ran it for 6 Centuries before Whites even knew what it was.

    If you understood anything about South Africa, you'd know there were Whites, Blacks and Coloreds.

    Who were the Coloreds? They were from India, Indonesia and Malaysia.

    White Muslim Arabs named Jamal would trade African tribes for Black slaves and then take them to India and trade them for Indians and then bring them to South Africa.

    Why? You'd have to ask Jamal.

    Wait a minute.....isn't that cultural appropriation?

    Yes, it most certainly is. The irony is quite ironic (and even moronic.)
     
  2. Mircea

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    More dishonesty. The FBI doesn't arrest drug users, only drug-traffickers. You're refusal to distinguish between the two is disingenuous at best.

    But, if you're dumb enough to stand in the open on a street corner and deal drugs where everyone can see you (and maybe get shot in a drive-by), then, yes, I guess you'll get arrested way more than me by local police who are not the FBI, since I'm smarter than you and have the common sense to deal in secret (and less likely to get shot in a drive-by.)
     
  3. Mircea

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    Everyone is winning except American Blacks. I guess it never occurred to you that's because they're doing everything wrong and everyone else is trying to do it the right way.

    More blame game on your part. You'd make a fantastic "Black leader" (if you aren't already.)
     
  4. chris155au

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    I'm saying that they DO NOT know about all of the drug crime! And you're saying that "MAYBE" that's correct! :roflol:
     
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    You are projecting onto me. I didn’t say culture wasn’t a big part of it. I did question that it may not be. We would need to see comparisons between more than than just the ones you listed, as myself and another mentioned in our posts above.

    I personally think that there is a culture of learned helplessness and of anti-authority within your country. I don’t think it is exclusive to people with dark skin. I think that correlation can be better explained by socioeconomic status and disparity thereof. What link there is to that and racial identity I think is more illusion than reality but some of it exists and it exists because your country is so obsessed with race.
     
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    Perhaps you should learn how to read, or at least find a volunteer to read to you, because I gave a thumbnail sketch of the situation, & it never said anything about the British using Opium or importing it into Great Britain (though, of course, some did-- you never heard of laudanum? Lord Byron, among others, was apparently a fan). Here is the quote you are supposedly referring to:

    I guess that was too long a paragraph, for your attention span? Do you just glance at posts, & respond, without actually reading them?

    No. I do not get my sense of reality from, "cop shows," or, for the most part, from YouTube videos.

    Can you explain where you could have possibly gotten the idea that I would be, "proud of that?" What does that even mean/ what are you trying to imply/ what assumptions are you making of me? To my mind, your statement is proof of your wanting analytical skills.
     
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    For starters, you are wrong about Native Americans: most no longer live on reservations. Secondly, an important difference between the two was that North Amerindians too prized their freedom to be able to be used as slaves: they would have escaped or died, trying (and perhaps some masters would've also died, in their efforts). I would have thought that you'd have respect for their commitment to that principle (as I imagine you do, when white Americans stand up to the government).

    Of course, it's only fair to also point out that this was the Amerindians' homeland, with which they were both familiar, and skilled in navigating, while negro slaves were in a very foreign place, to them.

    I wasn't sure I was going to reply, to state that I feel many Native North American tribes lived in a much more honorable way than, could a large portion of the European settlers, even grasp the concept. These Native Americans were also much more responsible, in the way they considered the future generations, and with regard to living in harmony with their surroundings; one might call them the best of Conservatives. What pushed me to post was noticing your signature:

    The enemy numbered six hundred -- including women and children -- and we abolished them utterly, leaving not even a baby alive to cry for its dead mother. This is incomparably the greatest victory that was ever achieved by the Christian soldiers of the United States. -- Mark Twain
    <END SNIP>

    Do you realize that Twain is saying that last line with EXTREME Irony and Sarcasm?
     
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  8. edna kawabata

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    You two seem to have your racism rationalized to a point where you can feel guilt free coming to your only logical conclusion. One is the belief they are inherently violent the other believes they have a corrupt incorrigible culture.

    I had an analogy earlier that no one seemed to get. I'll try again. The LGBT community has a much higher than average incidence of suicide, addiction, overdose, self abuse, depression and psych issues. Is it because they are inherently more susceptible to these problems or does their culture cause them to fall into these problems or is it social pressures from a repressive larger society?

    55% of African Americans are middle class and above. They are just as law abiding as their economic peers. Somehow the are repressing their "inherent" violent nature and they are far from rejecting their African American culture and yet are free of the social pathologies some attribute to their culture.

    Don't you find that strange? Could there be another explanation for those living in or near poverty?
     
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  9. Conservative Democrat

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    I never said that all Negroes are criminals. It is true that they have a crime rate that is eight times the white rate. Whites and Orientals have low crime rates, even when we are poor. I think durable racial differences in average intelligence, crime, and sexual behavior are due to genetic differences, and that will become obvious when more is learned about the human genome.

    I welcome genetics research. Anti racists try to suppress it because the fear the political implication of genetics findings.
     
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  10. edna kawabata

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    You wrote "they felt free to indulge in their criminals impulses". You did not modify it with, some, a few, and you have stated in the past "they" are inherently the most violent race.
    You wrote they are genetically inclined to violence and crime. How do you explained the "genetic switch" being turned off, across the board, once they reach middle class?
    You seem to hope future research will bear out your racist theories.
     
  11. notme

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    I'm not calling the FBI stats a joke. And you're evading my argument to be exceptionally dishonest.

    My studies stand that there is systemic racism. Your source does not even mention systemic racism. You insert your personal opinion into the stats of the FBI. That personal opinion remains a joke.
     
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    Scientific research pointed out that white people are slightly punching over their weight with the amount of drug use and drug selling. And indeed, the system is totally poised to put black people behind bars for such offenses. That's how you can prove that systemic racism is a true phenomena. The idea to only eyeball who is behind bars, and conclude that this is a just representation with the idea that there is no racism in the system, is a total joke.

    I have sourced that in this thread.
     
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    I've sourced often enough that white people slightly punch over their weight in selling drugs.

    Local durg users, local drug sellers... It all doesn't really matter. White people do and sell drugs just as much as black people, to even slightly more.

    Take Charlie Sheen, for instance. A notorious drug and alcohol abuser, violent wife beater....
    He ones got off with 30 day rehab. After he got out, he got removed from a hotel from being violent and using drugs.
    That's where he got of by being sent to the hospital.

    A black person would have been shot and when surviving, being tossed in jail. You can only joke there is no such thing as white privilege.
     
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  14. Buri

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    You pretend that stats are not there, and cherry pick science. There's the joke, only it's a sad one.
     
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    Excuse me if I did not make myself more clear. I believe that crime is an inclination based on genes that are found in each of the races, but more frequently in some races than other races. I look forward to more research into the genetic aspects of criminal behavior. Currently the research is suppressed by those who fear the political implications of the findings.

    Race is an area where the more one ignores science, the more enlightened one is seen to be.

    I believe that all criminals of all races should be incarcerated until they are too old to be dangerous. Rehabilitation has never been consistently effective. The only factor that reduces recidivism is age.
     
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    Systemic racism is the current alibi for black failure when there is no evidence of racial discrimination.
     
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    Looks like you're OUT! :roflol:
     
  18. notme

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    There are stats, but you're making it up that it's about institutionalized racism.
    It's just your personal unscientific opinion that it is.

    My sources use stats and prove how this scientifically show that institutionalized racism happens.
    You label what they are doing as "cherry picking" is again your unfounded unscientific opinion.
     
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    That's your opinion vs Stanford university, Human Rights Watch etc etc...

    I guess some people can't stand it that when they read that white people do the same amount/slightly more doing and selling drugs than black people, while black people get kicked to jail over it at an astronomic rate,... that they feel compelled to make some irrational denying rant.
     
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    Neah. You're out. It's remains your personal opinion that HRW and Stanfort university don't know how to do scientific research, and think that is all what it takes to discredit such a source. That's just you keep forgetting your silly opinion doesn't count.
     
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    I have NEVER ONCE said that HRW and Stanford University don't know how to do scientific research. I'm simply stating the FACT that they don't know about all of the drug crime and they do not claim to! And you're saying that "MAYBE" that's correct! So you admit that you MAY in fact agree with me!:roflol:
     
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  22. Conservative Democrat

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    Blacks are not discriminated against any more. They are discriminated in favor of with affirmative action programs.
     
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    The stats show who is committing the crimes. You’re pretending they’re not real, but it’s clear they are. If you understood science these figures wouldn’t be so befuddling.
     
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    So their research stands and I proved systemic racism.

    That's not a fact. That's your opinion. You're unable to uproot their research with a credible source. Thanks for trying.
     
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    You mean... African American people are not discriminated legally anymore. Racism still exists. You can can see a new vid a day with American white people screaming the n-word and other derogatory terms at African Americans. And it's not just limited to "average" people. It's a culture that also is present in the police force, the US justice department etc. Such a thing is called systemic racism. I proved with 6 sources that it exists. Do keep up on this issue.
     

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