Reality Of The True Believers

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  1. El Kabosh

    El Kabosh Well-Known Member

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    It is a childish deflection....a logical fallacy used often by the America-haters....!
     
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    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    You fear driven Sheep actually believe the absolute Absurdities fed to you, don't you ?
    ................ You're a 'Real True Believer' aren't you Robert ? :roflol:

    Fact Is:
    Bush handed them a country that was utterly destroyed, bombed back into the stone age
    ................................................................................................... Mission Accomplished
    ................................................................................................... As that was his Intent


    All of its electrical and water purification systems were thoroughly destroyed
    A country that has even now, not been allowed to begin a proper recovery

    Iraq is a county in RUINS and will remain so for the foreseeable future -
    .................................................. DUE TO AMERICAN INTERVENTION

    .................................................. Iraq A Country WE helped to Ruin

    The deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children was worth ........ 500,000 Since Start Of U.S.-Led Invasion - as of 2014
    Over half a Million dead children ! - ............... And well over half a Million dead citizens

    A country split into three, torn by civil & religious strife, warlordism, ISIS & death squads


    Iraqi Doctors Call Depleted Uranium Use “Genocide”
    A country poisoned forever with US Depleted Uranium





    http://www.globalresearch.ca/liar-i...ntends-to-overthrow-syrian-government/5539767

    If Helen Thomas were still there, she would ask the Liar-in-Chief what went wrong with
    Washington’s policy in Iraq.

    "We were promised that a low-cost “cakewalk” war of three
    or six weeks duration would bring “freedom and democracy” to Iraq.

    Why is it that 13 years later Iraq is a hellhole of war and destruction?"


    Oh of coarse!- They Hate you because of your Freedoms - Right ?

    They feed you CRAP like this !
    [​IMG] Yet over a decade later Iraq is still RUINED !

    People who buy into & apologize for this sort of idiotic crap are patently Stupid & Obscene ! :steamed:

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  3. Eadora

    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    It's hard to take you seriously when you make moronic claims like "half a million dead since US lead invasion" and calling depleted uranium genocide. The death toll was around 165,000 and the DU conspiracy was debunked years ago. There is no evidence that DU is responsible for the random mess of nonsense side effects bull(*)(*)(*)(*) conspiracy sites like globalresearch claim.

    Once again you are an epic fail.
     
  5. Eadora

    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    ....... catastrophic
    The FAIL my pokey puppet friend is between your "True Believer" ears :roflol:

    Go get yerself an edumacation :smile:

    [video=youtube;g5rVD_TXrjo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5rVD_TXrjo[/video]

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  6. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, you could not hate this government more if you got lit on fire and exploded.

    I get sick of posters who post as the ^^^^^ posted.

    So, Bush handed them a destroyed country heh?

    General Franks in his awesome book on this brings up why he and Bush did not want to harm the civilian infrastructure. Franks did his best to stick to military targets.

    War is next to impossible to win and not harm any of the infrastructure, but our side did it's best to save what was good of Iraq's structure.

    Iraq had not taken care of it's infrastructure. We found upon arrival things were far worse than Saddam ever let the world know.

    And he never had a proper infrastructure at any point. Blaming our troops may make you feel wonderful, but to blame them is lousy thinking when you never studied how the war was fought. I can tell you read some of the propaganda is all.

    You claim Iraq is in ruins. I can get a person to post who as an Army officer actually served there and see if he agrees with you.

    I shall show him your full text and see what he has to say.

    Blame those dead kids, if there really are all that many, not on our side, but the side that used bombs to blow up vehicles on the roads and used car bombs to destruct the local populations. Blame them.

    Depleted Uranium is not poison. Clearly you did not study this. I have in fact researched this from the vantage fo a person who through school, including college, took courses on nuclear physics.

    It is very commonly used for armor. It also makes very great tank rounds.

    Obama has had 7.5 years to cure this. Ask him how fast he went to work on this problem?
     
  7. Soupnazi

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    Just as much opf a fail as the first one.

    Here's a hint for the uneducated meaning you.

    you tube is not a source it is ENTERTAINMENT
     
  8. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I sent this to a current active duty Lt. Col that serves in the Army who has first hand knowledge of IRAQ including WMD.

    I hate how cryptic he is but will see if he replies on this topic.


    You fear driven Sheep actually believe the absolute Absurdities fed to you, don't you ?
    ................ You're a 'Real True Believer' aren't you Robert ?

    Fact Is:
    Bush handed them a country that was utterly destroyed, bombed back into the stone age
    .............................. .............................. .............................. ......... Mission Accomplished
    .............................. .............................. .............................. ......... As that was his Intent


    All of its electrical and water purification systems were thoroughly destroyed
    A country that has even now, not been allowed to begin a proper recovery

    Iraq is a county in RUINS and will remain so for the foreseeable future -
    .............................. .................... DUE TO AMERICAN INTERVENTION
    .............................. .................... Iraq A Country WE helped to Ruin

    The deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children was worth ........ 500,000 Since Start Of U.S.-Led Invasion - as of 2014
    Over half a Million dead children ! - ............... And well over half a Million dead citizens

    A country split into three, torn by civil & religious strife, warlordism, ISIS & death squads


    Iraqi Doctors Call Depleted Uranium Use “Genocide”
    A country poisoned forever with US Depleted Uranium




    http://www.globalresearch.ca/liar-in...rnment/5539767

    If Helen Thomas were still there, she would ask the Liar-in-Chief what went wrong with
    Washington’s policy in Iraq.

    "We were promised that a low-cost “cakewalk” war of three
    or six weeks duration would bring “freedom and democracy” to Iraq.

    Why is it that 13 years later Iraq is a hellhole of war and destruction?"

    Oh of coarse!- They Hate you because of your Freedoms - Right ?

    They feed you CRAP like this !
    Yet over a decade later Iraq is still RUINED !

    People who buy into & apologize for this sort of idiotic crap are patently Stupid & Obscene !
     
  9. ararmer1919

    ararmer1919 Banned

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    I will not watch you stupid propaganda video that most likely doesn't even mention the death toll in Iraq or depleted uranium. YouTube videos that anyone can make do not constitute a valid source of evidence. Either give us a link to a credible source which proves the death toll was over half a million or that DU does any of the crap globalresearch claimed, or buzz off.
     
  10. Eadora

    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    & Here's a hint for an Ignorant "True Believer" :smile: I'm sure you can assume whom I mean :roll:

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    Soupy - You should stay off the Poop they are feeding you & try and find a Moral Compass - :roll:


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    Sorry little guy but you are not better fed or enlightened you are in fact brainwashed with propaganda.

    Incidentally the quote from Randi applies to muslims and you not me
     
  12. Eadora

    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    In FACT - you make my case :clapping:
    You will not avail yourself to anything that might discomfort you and challenge your
    Puerile, Parochial, cast in stone American Exceptionalist "True Believer" Ideolology

    The VID simply points out the innumerable instances of American assent & support
    ........................................................................................ given to Gross Atrocity -



    But of coarse we can't
    allow such Facts to have access to the Moral VOID that exists between our ears can we ?
    ............................................... I mean Cognitive Dissonance is such a headache ain't it ?

    .............................................. You people Really aren't serious Intellectuals are you ? :roflol:
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    No you are the one suffering from cognitive dissonance.

    You watched a video and think it makes you informed.

    Take DU for example. DU is a heavy metal it is barely radioactive, if you had a pound of it sitting on your table you would soak up more rads from a wristwatch or a suntan on an average summer day. When burned it can emit toxic gases but the temperature required to make it burn are so high no one is getting near it. IF ingested it can cause poisoning similar to lead poisoning but it is so dense it is next to impossible to break up and ingest.

    Now there is some truth to concerns that tanks and other targets hit by DU munitions can burn and release the above mentioned gases. But again no one got near such fires because they would simple be too hot. It was also a concern that small even microscopic particles could be released into the atmosphere when such munitions are used and such particles could be ingested in the lungs. This would not last long however since the density of even those small particles would cause them to fall to earth and eventually return to the deep ground which is where uranium comes from in the first place. But in fact although such concerns were taken seriously empirical evidence shows no link between any illnesses and DU. Even the WHO discounts the dangers of DU poisoning among vets and inhabitants of Iraq.

    SOrry but your entertainment/fiction based claims are crap. Iraq was filled with massive health threats and problems before and after the invasion and even before desert storm. They had miserable sewage and sanitation, they had and have many industries which followed virtually no proper safeguards for employees or the environment and they had third world level health care. Any combinations of those factors are to blame for the health problems suffered by people living there. Not to mention the enforced loyalty to Saddam's regime which all health care professionals had to follow.

    Sorry but the facts and evidence prove you wrong now go study and let the adults talk. Try a book instead of You tube.
     
  14. Eadora

    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    Incredible ! - & you like a good self righteous "True Believer" - actually believe the SOB !

    FACT IS
    The Civil Infrastructure had already been purposely Targeted & taken out long before the trumped up Invasion
    US Government Documents admit to the fact that taking out the Water Purification, and Electrical grid, and preventing
    any mitigating Medications from entering through Sanctions, would cause massive disease & death amongst the most vulnerable

    And they did it A Purpose ! - :steamed: Yeh America - :clapping: Your Tax Dollar$ at work ! :flagus:

    The Secret Behind the Sanctions: How the U.S.
    Intentionally Destroyed Iraq's Water Supply

    http://www.progressive.org/news/200...us-intentionally-destroyed-iraqs-water-supply

    But of coarse Don't read the stupid article - it might give you a head ache :mrgreen:

    CHRIST you "True Believers" don't have a very firm grip on Reality do you ?




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    Incredible ! - & you like a good self righteous "True Believer" - actually believe the SOB !

    FACT IS
    The Civil Infrastructure had already been purposely Targeted & taken out long before the trumped up Invasion
    US Government Documents admit to the fact that taking out the Water Purification, and Electrical grid, and preventing
    any mitigating Medications from entering through Sanctions, would cause massive disease & death amongst the most vulnerable

    And they did it A Purpose ! - :steamed: Yeh America - :clapping: Your Tax Dollar$ at work ! :flagus:

    The Secret Behind the Sanctions: How the U.S.
    Intentionally Destroyed Iraq's Water Supply

    http://www.progressive.org/news/200...us-intentionally-destroyed-iraqs-water-supply

    But of coarse Don't read the stupid article - it might give you a head ache :mrgreen:

    CHRIST you "True Believers" don't have a very firm grip on Reality do you ?


    Crimes against Humanity:
    The Destruction of Iraq’s Electricity Infrastructure. The Social,
    Economic and Environmental Impacts

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/crimes...al-economic-and-environmental-impacts/5355665

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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Eadora is blaming Bill Clinton but does not mention Clinton's name. And he cites progressive sites.

    Progressives shun the truth.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look at the date of the article you use. You really blame Clinton. Pre 9/11, Bush never authorized any attacks made on Saddam of any sort.

     
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    I think you'll find that creating false quotes to attribute to me is the massive fail, pee-stained grandpa.
     
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    I'm sure if someone actually tallied them up, Christian terrorism would beat this list. Being a Muslim in sub-Saharan Africa is a borderline death sentence with all the Islamic State level Christian groups rampaging across the countryside. Obviously Fox isn't going to cover the millions of Muslim refugees fleeing the 'convert or die' Christian thugs after them, what with them being both Muslim and African.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you watch George C Scott have that chat with the Russian General?

    For you to call Franks a SOB really loses respect for you. I saw your photograph where you put it. I am older than you and once was as dumb.

    I could give you a few tips to rid yourself of that failed Democrat liking philosophy you have.

    But let's See how that SOB comment was handled in the past.

    [video=youtube;DVsGaqgBrdI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVsGaqgBrdI[/video]
     
  21. Eadora

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    You don't get it do you Robert ? - I care NOT who is in office.
    I blame America & the Psychopathic Puppet Masters that Americans allow to hold power


    It doesn't matter who the A**h*** in office is ! - They are but Shills, Store Fronts if you will
    .................................................................. - Shells in the Shell game made to screw the Rubes

    That is why when Americans got all excited & voted for Obama because of the promised change,
    No CHANGE was forthcoming You got more of the same - more Hate, more Fear, more War,
    ........................................................................ more Surveillance, more Militarized Police etc etc



    You Idiots had best Wake the F*** UP ! - You like to toot off and Bloviate about your much vaunted democracy

    Well News to Yah CHUMPS ! - :omg:
    Your Democracy has been Co-Op-ted by a small but Powerful Corporate Fascist Clique - You live under a well established Plutocracy
    ..................... & if voting in the present 'Theater of the Absurd' that you call an election, had any hope whatever of precipitating CHANGE -
    ............................................................................................................................................................ You would NOT be allowed to Vote

    [​IMG]

    You Poor Clowns would do well to learn the difference
    ............... between what's a Patriot & what's a Puppet


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    I like your reference site as if affirms the Holocaust which was the systematic extermination of twelve million people occurred as an historical fact however the article you use is telling us that because Saddam was intent on having sanctions applied rather than pick up the phone to allow inspections the UN is to blame for placing sanctions rather than all out war which was the next step.

    So because Iraq did not comply with it's ceasefire obligations and resumption of war should have been applied but the UN sought less violent means those less violent means are now the fault of the US and not Iraq?

    Why didn't Iraq simply allow inspectors to have free, unconditional and immediate cooperation? They never did but that would have ended all the sanctions with no war to boot.

    Once again, i like your site, that you and those who use this site acknowledge the Holocaust and the twelve million lives lost as the Nazis exterminated Jews,m Pole, Homosexuals, Invalids, Romanies and others is heartening given the recent spat of deniers this forum has seen the past month or two.
     
  23. Robert

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    I saw your style of government in East Berlin Eadora. Sorry buddy, no can do. I refuse to live like the communists lived.

    This government is far from perfect. Ask my readers. I am not one bit shy about pointing out it's faults. But making nonsense up over Iraq to get a point across won't get it done.

    And trying to misdirect using screwy font and type won't get it done either.
     
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    Lets be honest, - Lets be frank, Robert -
    You never had any of that for me to begin with
    I run counter & offend your "True Beliefs" & your political Sensibilities

    As for Gen Franks - He's but another THUG a GOON if you will
    A Criminal who made War & killed people at the behest of & for the enrichment of a few PIGS

    Smedley Butler had the number of him and his Ilk

    War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not
    what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is
    about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.

    I served in all commissioned ranks from a second Lieutenant to a Major General.
    And during that time, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for
    Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for
    capitalism.


    Read more at: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/smedley_butler.html
     
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    I'm glad youve finally realized and accepted who and what you are. That quote summed you up perfectly. A foolish sheep.
     

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