Religions and supernatural beliefs are the enemy of world peace, as shown by 5000 years of war.

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  1. Greatest I am

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    Kiss this.

    If all you can do is link then you are no better than a bot.

    Please ignore me, please, useless piece of software.

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    I believe in a Creator and a Savior and I believe that the Bible is the Word of God. God is self existing. People say that the Bible was written by men but so are the science books that they believe in. God used people as an instrument to write the Bible like people use pens as an instrument to write what they write.
     
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    I agree, so stop your copy paste and do as bid. Walk you talk.

    Thanks for showing your belief in the supernatural.

    Do you see the adoration of a genocidal character, --- be it a man or a god, --- as good?

    Would you, for instance, promote his ideology as being good, be it Hitler's or Yahweh's?

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    God is a God of love but He is also a holy and just God.
     
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    You set a really low bar for love when you follow a god of hate.

    Can't answer honest questions I see.

    Now I see why all you are good for is copy past.

    Please ignore me as I have little respect for your ilk.

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    The Old Testament violence is overshadowed by the love of Christ. Christ was the final and complete revelation of God and wasn't a warrior. Mohammad was.
     
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    what? JC advocated hate, aside from evil? News to me? YOu must be back in the OT, using Jewish law, or are you referring to the Jews?

    I think he is referring to the Jews not Christians? Plenty of hate in Jewish law.
     
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    The Apostle Paul wasn't a Judaizer.
     
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    is there a point in all that?
     
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    Gotquestions.org Hebrew Roots Movement.

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    An Italian expert in Hebrew manuscripts says he has found the oldest known complete Torah scroll, a sheepskin document dating from 1155-1225.

    Carbon Dating Confirms World's Oldest Torah Scroll
    A scroll at the University of Bologna is shown to be 800 years old.
    3 Minute Read
    By Diane Cole, for National Geographic

    PUBLISHED May 31, 2013
     
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    https://www.gotquestions.org/what-is-the-Torah.html

    https://www.gotquestions.org/Pentateuch.html

     
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    Jesus is mentioned in old testament prophecies. He is the Man of Sorrows. All of us are like sheep gone astray and the iniquity of us all was laid upon Jesus.
     
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    Quoted from apple of his eye.org.
    COMMON OBJECTIONS TO JESUS

     
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    so what does that have to do with your claim JC didnt change any of the OT Jewish law and brought it all forward?
     
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    Quoted from gotquestions.org about Old Testament Law.

     
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    Jesus took the ethics of the Old Covenant and brought them to a higher standard. He said that divorce is not ideal and whoever looks at a woman to lust after her already committed adultery in his heart.
     
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    It's similar to Messianic Jews following the Old Covenant doesn't make them Judaizers.
     
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    So JC is the creator of thought crimes?
    Thats a bit broad simply to say "took the ethics", not necessarily the same as brought the OT into the NT.
     
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    Think Armageddon and the genocide Jesus is to unleashes.

    Nice that he is just a myth.

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    More than in inquisitions and jihads?

    We are splitting hairs. All the god religions are beneath modern man.

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    The Amazing Sam's Ego said:

    "The Torah is considered the inspired Word of God by both Jews and Christians alike."

    Not by the intelligentsia within those religions.

    To them, the bible is not to be read literally. How can one read the bible as history when this literary work begins with a talking serpent and a god who would deny his children an education?

    I hope you can see how intelligent the ancients were as compared to the mental efforts that modern preachers and theists are using with the literal reading of myths.

    https://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2

    Further.
    http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html

    Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."

    Please listen as to what is said about the literal reading of myths.

    "Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."

    Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

    This is how early Gnostic Christians view the transition from reading myths properly to destructive literal reading and idol worship.



    I have the pope saying the same, should I need it.

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    He did not create the notion, but he was correct, biologically speaking.

    Our bodies react to what our minds envisage. Ask any trainer.

    If you were to plan a murder, is the planning a part of the crime?

    Secular law and mens rea would say yes.

    I think it could be argued so. Jesus would like Laïcité.

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    https://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Osama/zaatri_amalikites.htm

     
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