Report: Trump played central role in hush payoffs to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal

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  1. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not in this case. It may be a campaign violation but not impeachable in my opinion.
     
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    Was trump tower built with campaign money? Mara largo?
     
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    Impeachable only means what they’d actually impeach him over. With a gop senate, nothing is impeachable
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not think the Democratic controlled House should impeach Trump for conspiring to pay women he screwed to clam up. Technically, they could but if that’s the worst they have on him, I do not think it would be wise.
     
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    Exactly. I would rather see Trump further exposed as a lying crook and beaten in the 2020 election than ever have to hear the words President Pence...
     
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    I think they understand they are trying to get him off the hook. It remains that it is not against the law to pay someone not to say bad things about you. Cite the law you claim he violated in doing so. It is not again campaign contribution law if you don't use campaign contributions to do so, go read up on the John Edwards case.
     
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    ESPECIALLY after they let Clinton off.
     
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    Not according to the Democrats.
     
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    They should never have impeached him either. Especially with the weak charges against him. Hopefully the Dems in congress will not follow the lead of the hypocritical Gingrich crew. However, if Mueller presents evidence of conspiracy to rig the election, money laundering, tax evasion, gross corruption or obstruction that would be a different story. We will know whether Mueller’s investigation will present any real evidence of impeachable offenses soon. Probably right before the new House and Senate are sworn in. Should be interesting to see what develops. Stay tuned.
     
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    Really? What was weak about them? Do you know what is submitting a false affidavit , conspiring to submit that false affidavit, suborning perjury and witness tampering?
     
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    Depends on what it’s about, just like Trumps felonies for conspiring to pay women to keep their mouths shut. Clinton lied about diddling his intern and told her to lie too. Big deal.
     
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    Exactly.

    Trump could kill his wife and burn the flag (on live tv) and the Dems still couldn't get the 20 GOP votes they'd need for Conviction and Removal.
     
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    Now you are just posting nonsense just to post nonsense.
     
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    8 pages, when two sentences would do it:

    World: "Trump probably broke the law."

    Trump cult: "We don't care."

    /Thread
     
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    That would depend on how serious and upsetting to most people Mueller's report will be. It is not impossible that it would be so horribly egregious that even Republicans decide trump must be impeached and removed from office.
     
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    Why did trump report how much of his own money went into the campaign?
     
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    This is specifically about the charges against him, what was weak? Do you know what is prima facie evidence of a crime? Did he or did he not suborn the perjury of Lewinsky and submit a false affidavit into a federal court during a federal civil rights lawsuit?
    The Senate doesn't impeach, they only decide should he be removed for that which he was impeached.
     
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    And the basis for that postulation is what exactly? What shred of evidence do we have that Mueller has found evidence of a crime or serious misbehavior?
     
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    This is specifically about the charges against him, what was weak? Do you know what is prima facie evidence of a crime? Did he or did he not suborn the perjury of Lewinsky and submit a false affidavit into a federal court during a federal civil rights lawsuit?
     
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    And the law he "probably broke" and the basis of your supposition he did is what?
     
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    I am not sure if he was convicted of suborning perjury, but in those circumstances I don’t blame him anymore than I blame Trump for lying about paying Stormy to clam up about screwing him. It’s really nobody’s business if Trump screwed Stormy or the other broad and it was nobody’s business if Clinton was cramming cigars up Lewinskys cooter or if Lewinsky was blowing him. Both the Stormy Daniels crap and the Lewinsky debaucle were political hit jobs engineered by slimy scumbags like Avenatti and Lucianne Goldberg and her little elves. Neither are grounds for removing a sitting president from office.
     
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    The judge in the court convicted him of suborning perjury, perjury and witness tamperin in her contempt citation and he plea bargained the criminal charge and that was in a FEDERAL COURT where he was being sued for a FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS violation. He was compelled to give that testimony under the Molinari Amendment which HE SIGNED INTO LAW. His charges were as a GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL with GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES where he was trading special rewards and favors for sex and threatening workers who did not grant them. And yes it was our business what he as a government official was doing with government workers and sexual harassment and sexual assault in the workplace is our business. There is NO comparison to anything Trump has been accused of.

    You just proved my previous point, that the MSM has convinced people he was impeached for having sex in the Oval Office which of course is fallacious nonsense. He was impeached because he committed felonies in a federal court and a federal grand jury in that federal civil rights lawsuit.

    And again what law did Trump "probably" violated and the premise of that supposition is what?
     
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    He was legally required to. Stupid question. If you can't ask a question any smarter than that please do us both a favor and don't waste your time or my time. Just don't ask.
     
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    He’s legally required to report when he spends his own money to benefit the campaign.
    Thank you.
     
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    Jens David Ohlin, law professor, Cornell University
    Trump is clearly guilty of violating campaign finance laws and also guilty of federal conspiracy as well (because he agreed with Cohen, and possibly others, on a plan to violate federal law). Normally he would be indicted right away. But that won’t happen only because he’s the president. But I suspect he’ll be named as an unindicted co-conspirator and also there’ll be a separate section of the Mueller report titled “Conspiracy to Violate Campaign Finance Laws” or something like that.


    https://www.vox.com/2018/8/21/17765566/michael-cohen-plea-deal-trump-mueller

    There are many more beside the one posted, but they are pretty much all in agreement.
     

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