Republicans should oppose Trump's power grab!!!!

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  1. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    It is not. If it were then the latest shutdown would not have been allowed to occur, nor would elected officials procure salaries and job security far above what their voting constituents possess.
     
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    And the president of the united states has the authority to veto any legislation that makes it to their desk, essentially declaring that what congress thinks will not be allowed to become law. How is such any different?
     
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    False.

    Enough people supported Republicans that it wasn't possible to stop the shutdown.

    That shutdown came from the power of the people, through their representatives.

    If you didn't like what your representative did, then you need to vote for someone else. That's how our system works.
     
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    You missed the point entirely. Read post # 388 and immediately below.
     
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    ??? A declaration of a national emergency is not even SLIGHTLY like a veto!!
     
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    And Congress can override a Presidential veto. Our government is a system of checks and balances combined with the Separation of Powers principle. Trump is challenging the latter. Congress controls appropriations. Trump is attempting to go around Congress and appropriate funds for his wall.
     
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    And if congress does not fulfill its duties to represent the interests of its voting constituents, but rather represents its own interests instead, what is the check and balance upon it?
     
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    vote them out of office!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Congressional individuals serve a six year term before reelection comes up. That means a great many violations of the interests of the voting constituents can be performed between them taking office, and them having to make a bid for their next term.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what is the Constitutional method of removing a Senator or Congressman that you deem to be corrupt or in some other way unable to perform his duties?
     
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    A very good question. Exactly what is this method, and where exactly has it been successfully utilized?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    im asking YOU
     
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    Well, you are wrong about that. He has to reference his statutory authority to do any of this and the courts defer to that since the statutes are passed by Congress. There is no statute authority to 'override pretty much ANY legislation'.

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    Rand Paul Opposes Trump’s Emergency Declaration, Likely Providing Decisive Vote

    WASHINGTON — Senator Rand Paul, Republican of Kentucky, said on Sunday that he would support a resolution that would overturn President Trump’s declaration of a national emergency at the southern border, appearing to provide the crucial vote needed for the Senate to pass the measure.

    “I stand with the president often, and I do so with a loud voice,” Mr. Paul wrote in an opinion piece published late Sunday on Fox News’s website. “Today, I think he’s wrong, not on policy, but in seeking to expand the powers of the presidency beyond their constitutional limits.”

    “I cannot support the use of emergency powers to get more funding” for a wall along the border with Mexico, he wrote, “so I will be voting to disapprove of his declaration when it comes before the Senate.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/03/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage
     

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