Republicans want to raise voting age to 21

I have children that are or were teachers. What part of what I said are you having trouble understanding? Get out and talk to young people and ask them simple questions about how our government functions. I'd venture to say most wouldn't even know what the three branches of government are.

 

I agree, as long as you can also drink, purchase any legal gun, buy cigarettes, rent a car and buy vape supplies. Either you are fully an adult or you are not.

 

Sorry but its not all or nothing.

 

It will require a Constitutional Amendment and that won't pass the House nor Senate, no matter who controls it.

they want to change it because the young people, those 25 and younger, came out in droves this last election and voted almost overwhelmingly Democrat. So, get rid of a voting block and make it easier to win the next time. that is the GOP plan.

 

It is how they define "civics" is the more appropriate question, but yes they do. But it is usually taught by a coach or someone else as a "filler teaching" job in most public school districts. Even my old high school regularly changes every year the Civics teacher and that is because one of the coaches usually leaves and goes elsewhere. That coach that leaves is the one who teaches civics.

 

the way education is taught, it is taught to pass the test, namely that year-end test to determine if the school is meeting state standards. But that is not truly learning.

there was a private school here that took the seniors on Election Day to vote as part of the civics lesson. All got permission slips signed by the parents and they voted, those who were 18. Made the local news.

 

But from what I understand, because children are failing on the basics the educators have decided just to lower the standards. That's called the "dumbing down of Americans." I think there was a book written about it that I read decades ago.

 

Yes because they want that money from the Federal Government and State government. It is just a game. And the problem is that we have a checklist mentality and not really teaching. And the real teachers are getting ostracized by the GOP because they are "teaching indoctrination" or code word by the GOP is "we don't like what you are teaching because it goes against our political idealogy" argument.

 

Dogs can't register.

 

Coming from someone who never backs up his own hyperbolic claims ...

 

Yet another one who doesn't know, or has forgotten, why the voting age was lowered to 18 in the first place.

 

Which means what? There are many species that give birth so young, they may as well be born pregnant.

People are not animals. Well, not all of us.

 

Look at you, asking for proof!

Now, if only you could learn to provide that without being asked . . .

 

You, too! Wow! This thread is a gold mine of hypocrisy!

 

More like 25 seconds, at most.

 

IOW, yet another way for the GOP to cheat, since they can't win on numbers or merit.

 

What a ridiculous question. Do only a handful of well-known people, speak for all Conservatives? That is to say, these people who MJ references, I see cited in articles by both The New Republic-- which FYI, is highly respected for its journalism, even if you don't personally care for the perspective-- and the Daily Beast. They are obviously people who are not nobodies-- they have followings, and are influential-- but they are not names that are so nationally famous, that you are likely to have heard of them. That does not mean they are not "Conservative voices" of note. Have you ever heard of Peter Schiff, a Conservative radio personality? Well he is one. Another, named by the Day Beast, is an anti-Muslim activist, in a "now viral series of tweets," so you can look it up, if you cared to (but who are we kidding?). Her name is Brigitte Gabriel. Here is the news quote:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/some-...fter-gen-zs-strong-midterm-turnout?ref=scroll

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Other conservative voices were less rosy on winning the youth vote. In a now-viral series of tweets, anti-Muslim activist Brigitte Gabriel suggested barring America’s youngest voters from the polls.

“Raise the voting age to 21,” Gabriel tweeted, immediately after noting that “We were promised a red wave and we got a red puddle.”

She went on to tweet that “Generation Z thinks doing drugs in the street should be legal. Generation Z also thinks speech that offends them should be illegal.”...



Not to be outdone, conservative radio personality Peter Schiff suggested cutting out current Gen Z voters altogether. “Let's raise the voting age to 28. If I was still 18 I'd support this,” the 59-year-old tweeted.

The current 18-year age minimum for voting is guaranteed by the Constitution’s 26th amendment, which passed, in part, because the Vietnam War draft was conscripting people too young to vote.
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Also, from that article:

Tuesday’s midterm election saw Gen Z come out strong for Democrats, including for their generation’s first U.S. representative: Maxwell Frost, a 25-year-old Democrat from Florida. The young blue bloc left Fox News personalities dismayed, with other conservative voices suggesting that the minimum voting age be raised from 18 (currently enshrined in the Constitution) to 21 or 28.


“The fact that these youth voters are coming in so strong in an off-year is very concerning,” Fox News commentator Jesse Watters lamented on Wednesday night. “It looks like they’ve been brainwashed. This new generation is totally brainwashed ‘cause a lot of these single women [who] vote 37 spreads for Democrats, are teaching all of our younger generation in these schools and they’re polluting their minds and then they grow up and they’re in their twenties and then they vote for leftists.”
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These same basic facts were confirmed by the New Republic's reporting:

https://newrepublic.com/post/168736/red-wave-greeted-with-period-jokes

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Young voters turned out in record numbers for Election Day and overwhelmingly voted Democratic—sending Republicans into a moralistic panic over the voting age.

About a third of voters under age 30 participated in the midterm elections, according to a study by Tufts University’s Center for Information & Research on Civil Learning and Engagement.

There was 27 percent turnout overall, and 31 percent turnout in battleground states. In fact, young voters—who favored Democrats by about a 2-1 margin—helped tip the scale left in several crucial races including Pennsylvania and Michigan.

As a result, not only was there no much-promised “red wave” on Election Night, but many states swung in the opposite direction, although the national races remain tight. Democrats took control of state legislatures in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Minnesota.

By Thursday morning, conservatives were clamoring to raise the voting age, although they couldn’t seem to agree on what the new age should be: there were arguments for 21, 25, 30, or simply until voters had gotten “a lil life experience.”

The demand is, of course, as ridiculous as it is hypocritical. There is no talk of also raising the age for military enlistment or, say, consent. Instead, it shows that the right is rushing to preserve its power over Gen Z rather than appealing to them through legislation.

But while it’s easy to poke fun at Republicans, a call to raise the voting age is still a call to violate voter rights.

“The fact that there are republicans calling to raise the voting age to 21 because Gen-Z showed up in HEAVY Democratic numbers last night is both laughable and terrifying,” tweeted Olivia Julianna, from the nonprofit Gen-Z for Change.
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Yeah, I agree: sex changes-- OK;
but voting-- no way!

 

then raise the age to join the military to 21

 

they want to mutilate the genitals of little babies with forced circumcisions

I say let them decide for themselves when they grow up

Sick stuff man!

 

That's a new one: "Elites," is now being used to mean, "not clueless?" Does that make it the "elites," who are pointing out that the GOP's assault on abortion rights, was one of the things that hurt their showing?

https://newrepublic.com/post/168736/red-wave-greeted-with-period-jokes

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Right-wing media outlets and commentators have freaked out, trying to explain why their red wave slowed to a trickle. They have tried to blame everything from Donald Trump to voters being too young. They can’t seem to grasp—or won’t admit—that people vote for issues that matter to them.

But Washington Post writer Monica Hesse explained, “Buddy, it was right in front of you. The red wave rolled in with Aunt Flo on a longboard.”

Many others have been quick to mock the so-called red wave, noting it both sounds like a euphemism for a period and symbolizes how period-havers turned out in droves to vote against the Republicans.

“So, contrary to all these major media outlets, the red wave coming is my period on Friday,” tweeted professor Uju Anya.

Podcaster Allison Gill joked that “the ‘red wave’ is more like light spotting.”
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Whereas all the "regular" folks know what-- that it was Democratic cheating?

LOL!! -- Which we've heard here too many times to count, without ever being offered evidence to back it up. So many on the Right simply "feel" or "know" there was cheating; something just doesn't make sense to them, so even without any proof, they assert it as a fact-- I guess a lot of you on the Right, qualify under your pejorative definition of elites: expecting others to accept what they say, as fact, without anything to back it up, except their "feelings."

 

So anyone who doesn't back up a statement with a link is from the 'elites'? Not only do you regularly make claims without links, you refuse to correct falsehoods when you get caught out. I guess that makes you the eliet of 'the elites'.

 

what age do republicans think a child is old enough to be forced to have a baby?

 

Do canines favor one Party, over the other?
Follow up: do their voting habits change, as they get older?

 

Careful, the member you are replying to, himself, had suggested a raising of the voting age-- among other possible options, like having a family, or having served in the military, for example-- as something that would improve the quality of the electorate. So I guess this all goes to underscore that there is nothing dubious about this thread's noting an impulse, on the Right, to age-restrict voting.



Edit: Exhibit B:

Exhibit C: There is currently a thread, under New Posts, titled "Voting Age Should Be 25," by Xyce, who I'm pretty sure is not a liberal.