Require immigrants speak English?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Ronstar, May 17, 2018.

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Require immigrants speak English?

  1. No, this is a free country and they can speak whatever language they like.

    9 vote(s)
    23.1%
  2. No, but require English be the language of official govt. business.

    18 vote(s)
    46.2%
  3. Yes, this is America and you should only speak English!!!!

    2 vote(s)
    5.1%
  4. Speak your language at home, speak English in public!!!!

    14 vote(s)
    35.9%
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  1. Battle3

    Battle3 Well-Known Member

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    You do realize your position is easily expanded to mean you have no right to force someone to do anything against their will - no accommodation law, no hate crime law, no affirmative action law, no equal employment law.

    Glad to see you are a firm libertarian.
     
  2. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Try talking to a clerk in Texas near the border. No habla English.
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    38% of responders to the poll want immigrants and native-born citizens to ONLY speak English in public.

    very, very sad.

    so much for being a Free Country
     
  4. BillRM

    BillRM Well-Known Member

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    Oh have you like Trump forgotten about the island of PR that is just full of national born US citizens with many of them not speaking English in their everyday lives?

    I do find it amusing that English the default international language for business and science and even air traffic control for some strange reason need the power of laws to protect it in it home nations according to Trump supporters.
     
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    You should watch roughly half of US citizens that had been called for Jury duty in south florida trying to get out of it by claiming that their English is not good enough to serve on a jury.

    A bilingual judge then normal interview them to check out their claim.
     
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    Why not just give them an English test to immigrate?
     
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    Your post is confusing. Are you asking if immigrants should be tested for English skills (and be fluent) before being granted entry? Or are you asking about social mores?
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    I have to agree with this. It would never occur to me to think others are talking about me, in any language.
     
  9. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no, this is about immigrants in the USA being penalized and possibly even deported for using non-English on the streets of the USA.

    some folks seem to find this concept, "offensive"
     
  10. crank

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    What? That's absurd.

    Then again, you can be penalised for saying all sorts of things in the street, in some parts of the world. Thanks Progressives.
     
  11. DavidMK

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    America has no official language and the 2 times we voted on it Greek and Hebrew beat out English (but attained a plurality rather than a majority so didn't change anything). The German losing by 1 vote story is actually a myth and even if true, the 'vote' was 50/50 (1 vote shy of German getting the majority). Pretty sure if such a vote was held today, Spanish would have it's turn to embarrass English without attaining a majority.
     
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    Minimally, require English for citizenship

    English is the national language of :flagus: :salute:
    PC or not.

    Foreign language voting materials is just, absurd.

    And steadily we see our national sports being replaced by soccer, <the horror, the horror>
    as foreign languages increasingly make their presence in an American English speaking society.


    Moi :oldman:
    I dislike soccer!
    What kind of ball sport
    doesn't let you use your hands?




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    The 14th Amendment, which was ratified in 1865, is perhaps the Amendment most in need of modernizing.
    "Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
    In my opinion citizenship at birth should be something employed identically by ALL countries.
    At a minimum, a child born should automatically be entitled to the citizenship held by the Mother, regardless of where the birth occurs. This would eliminate illegal entry to the U.S. simply to give birth to an American citizen as a means of requesting permanent residence after violating our immigration laws.
    The birth of a child to both legal and illegal immigrants should be registered with the Embassy of the Mothers citizenship. The child, of a legal immigrant who later becomes a citizen or remains a legal resident, should be allowed to request citizenship of the birth country once becoming an adult.
     
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    I would not doubt it.
     
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    It is to become a nationalized citizen.
     
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    All public education and government interaction should be in English. I would make an exception for allowing translation in courtrooms.
     
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    "However, the prevailing consensus among scholars, lawmakers and policymakers is that Puerto Ricans are not entitled to a constitutional citizenship status. While Puerto Ricans are officially U.S. citizens, the territory remains unincorporated. This contradiction has enabled the governance of Puerto Rico as a separate and unequal territory that belongs to, but is not a part of, the United States."
    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-03-03/are-puerto-ricans-american-citizens

    " The Supreme Court has yet to decide whether the statutory citizenship that Puerto Ricans possess is equivalent to U.S. citizenship — including guarantees of equal protection laid out in the 14th Amendment."
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...dec16379010_story.html?utm_term=.32d89b31fed7
     
  18. BillRM

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    Sorry you can not unmixed PR from the US after a 100 years and with roughly half the island people living off the island in the states and exercising their rights of natural US citizenship in those states.

    Take note that Goldwater in the 1960s was allow to run for President even those he was born in a territory that at the time was not a state anymore then PR happen to be now.



     
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    I think the EU should speak English if it wants to be the United States of Europe.
     
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    Personnaly, I don't want to, even if I wish that we the frogs would speak english better.
     
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    English is required and should be required to file or do anything professionally related to the US government. In the same vein, of course English should be a requirement for becoming a full US citizen. For immigration, no.
     
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    If the USA is to be a NATION (and not a multiculturalist mess), then it should meet the definition of a NATION >>

    A stable, historically developed community of people, with a territory, economic life, and a distinctive language and culture.
     

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