Respect the Presidency!

I agree. Clinton first opened my eyes to the fact that the office of the
president is no longer respectable.

This current president has maligned the presidency far worse than
Clinton.

 

Fixed it for ya...Thought you may have forgotten

 

Thats like saying I should respect someone simply because they are the boss...regardless of their ethics. That is silly quite frankly!

And if you are a civilian you are not protecting my rights any more than a city cop is, and given how much Obama has basically neutered the US regarding his dealings with other countries and terrorism I doubt you even protect them that much. It has gotten to the point where I fear my own government more than I do that of others.

I still love my country, but I am no longer as proud of it as I used to be, parents are no longer allowed to raise their children without government approval...some feel like they are owed something for things that never happened to them by people who never did anything to them...if one person complains about something and they are a minority then their wishes are more important regardless of how every one else feels,etc.,etc,.

And to top it all off...we have people on here and other forums who actually defend and tell us we should "respect" this sh*t!

Sorry...I don't, and I do not care who that pisses off!

 

It is difficult to respect an office when the one that holds it lies constantly and is an arrogant and petty little man.

 

respecting the office includes.... providing protection at the taxpayer's expense, to the person and family in it, no matter the party....
respecting the office includes.... leaving the kids alone
respecting the office includes.... providing protection for the rest of their life after their term (can you imagine a terrorist kidnapping the bush twins to hold for ransom?)


respecting the office does NOT include..... giving the potus a pass for poor policies

 

I have no issue with whatever your opinions of the MAN who is the U.S. President as that is your right and I am not all that thrilled with him myself.

It is the Office of the Presidency I speak of.

I believe the OFFICE must be respected.

AboveAlpha

 

Was Castro, Stalin or Hitler elected into Power? No....and even though Hitler had the backing of the German People...he still seized power.

Besides I am talking about respecting the OFFICE of the U.S. PRESIDENCY.

AboveAlpha

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Any lacking of a President is the fault of the people that voted that President in.

The OFFICE deserves respect.

AboveAlpha

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I usually VOTE Republican.

AboveAlpha

 

I have been discussing that people should respect the OFFICE.

Now I don't care if a President in Republican or Democrat or Other....and I don't care how bad said President screws up....I am STILL going to respect the OFFICE...and that means that a certain level of respect be given any standing U.S. President.

AboveAlpha

 

Horsepucky.

I will state unequivocally and categorically that President Obama is a liar. He is the Liar-in-Chief, and the Republican politician who called him out on the House floor was absolutely correct to do so.

Politics is not a feel good game of mutual respect, it's a system of checks and balances whose purpose is to ensure the survival of the country and its political system in spite of the vagaries of human nature and human beings.

It's stupid to say "my esteemed colleague" when what you really mean is "the ratfink across the aisle". And it's similarly stupid and very dangerous to refrain from calling the President a liar "just because he's the President".

Sorry, the President is just a human being like any other. He's a man, and as such he can (and does) lie.

I could rattle off a short list of more than a hundred lies Obama's told, just off the top of my head, without even jogging my memory. The man is a liar, he lied about Benghazi, he lied about healthcare, he lies every single f'in day about the economy.....

No, sorry. No respect will be given when none is earned.

Respect has to be EARNED, and this present clown hasn't earned any.

Especially with that last bit about Sharpton, he took a 10-point ding in cred for that one.

Now - would you like to get more specific? Let's talk about the office of the Presidency - in fact let's talk about the whole Executive Branch while we're at it. Let's talk about the destruction of our system of checks and balances by a lazy and stupid Congress, and let's talk about the subversion of our Constitutional system by a Supreme Court that's too timid to deal with limits on presidential powers. What part of all that is deserving of respect, in your eyes?

 

I have known over the last six years quite a few folks that will salute the president, say yes sir, yes sir, three bags full sir. Do everything ordered to do and then some, but yet talk about the president like he is a dog. Is this what you are talking about. Respect for the office, he is CINC, it is there. But they think his policies and even some of his orders suck, but they are faithfully carried out.

 

I don't care what Obama did or what you or anyone else thinks of him.

I don't care if we were talking about Richard Nixon....as even NIXON deserves a bit of respect as long as he hold office.

You keep going on about POLITICS.

I could care less about what Politics a President has specific to this issue.

If a man is President of the United States....the OFFICE AFFORDS RESPECT.

Even if we don;t like the person in office.

AboveAlpha

 

I am talking about the increasing lack of respect for the Office of the Presidency and this started when Bush W. was in and it got worse with Obama.

I understand that there are always going to be issues and incidents...but it has gotten out of hand.

AboveAlpha

 

You're still missing the point.

The "office of the presidency" isn't what you think it is.

It could be respected if it were just what it says in the Constitution, but it isn't. (And that's the first red flag, is when the actual practice is different from the highest law in the land).

No, I'm very sorry, I fully disrespect the individuals who are trampling on the definition of our presidency because they're promoting their own personal agendas over the highest law in the land. I have no respect whatsoever for the fools who think they can "wave their hands over the Constitution" behind everyone's back (and maybe they think no one will notice, or maybe they just don't care).

And while we're at it, I fully disrespect a Supreme Court that wants to tell me that money is speech, buildings are people, and shopping malls constitute "public use".

Nah man - if this president wants respect, then let's see him fill the shoes that the office demands. No president has done that in my living memory, so what is there to respect?

******it, they still haven't told us who killed Kennedy. And that is the president's decision - it is his decision and no one else's, what remains classified and what doesn't.

And you want me to respect.... that?

No freakin' way! Take a hike with that demand. I'm going to talk as much sh*t as I possibly can about the gross perversion of our Constitutional system that is today's Executive Branch, and if the scumbag sitting on top of all that had even one ounce of integrity he would act to restore a proper admixture of checks and balances.

But he doesn't. He doesn't do that. In fact, every president in my living memory (with ONE possible exception) has gone out of their way to do exactly the opposite, and the Supreme Morons allow it, and the Congress critters can't muster enough votes for a veto.

Right now today this President is making law, and that is illegal and un-Constitutional and no one's complaining.

Well, I am. You're going to get nothing but disrespect out of me till this system is working properly again. The g*ddamn presidents are the ones who screwed this system up in the first place!

I'll tell you what, I wouldn't do well in the army. 'Cause I don't like working for stupid *ssholes, especially not when they have titles and they're making more than I do. No thanks. I'll just sit this one out and continue to work behind the scenes. But my public persona will reflect my private preferences, and those are amply detailed in the collection of Federalist Papers and etc.

Nah man, they screwed up the office of the President about 10 minutes after it was created, and it didn't make more than a few days after that for our first president to trample on the Constitution.

And it just went downhill from there.

Now, no one even cares about the highest law in the land.

I ask you again: what part of all this is worthy of respect, in your eyes?

Do you really find it surprising that no one in the world has a great deal of "respect" for the United States anymore?

Well, I have your answer: blame us, not them. The problem is here, not there.

 

Kennedy was killed by the MOB in retaliation for Bobby's Actions as the A.G. as Joe Kennedy used his MOB connections to get ballot boxes stuffed and the MOB saw Bobby's actions as a betrayl.

As far as what I see as the Office of the Presidency....I see a person who is elected by the American People.

You can dislike this President, hate the President....have no respect for the President....but the OFFICE and the IDEOLOGY of a Nation electing it's Leadership deserves respect.

AboveAlpha

 

Sort of like the kind of respect they gave Bush?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...dnt-care-about-protest-signs-threatening-bush

 

This was wrong as well.

AboveAlpha

 

Why do you think the office should be respected if the man who is holding it is not? The office IS the president during his term.

Do you think that somehow means I will never respect a president again?

 

Well said. And how can you respect a President that doesn't respect citizens of all political affiliations and ignores what nearly half the voters want(re: PPACA)

 

No thinking person can dispute this stance. It was the current agenda that assassinated JFK, and in that, the American Ideal was dashed.
I do respect the office of POTUS, but I loathe and despise what has been made of it.

 

But I never hear the Left condemn these kinds of things shown against Bush, only Obama.

 

When people cannot even respect the OFFICE of the Presidency...then how can that person expect any respect in return for their beliefs and ideologies?

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It is becoming a vicious circle as one side does one thing and the other retaliates and it just goes around and around.

AboveAlpha

 

Maybe. But that doesn't explain why there were active CIA agents all over Dealey Plaza that day - not "all along the parade route", not even "all over Dallas" - not even "at the Trade Mart too" - just in Dealey Plaza.

And I'll bet you a hundred bucks right now that gimpy Radio Man had nothing whatsoever to do with the mob.

Oh no. It wasn't just a mob hit. Nowhere even close.

And Oswald definitely didn't do it either, that much is beyond obvious.

The best theory I've heard involves Nelson Rockefeller and a few other people. (You remember Nelson, he was Gerald Ford's vice president - and good old Gerald is the one who sat on the Warren Commission and altered their medical drawings so they'd fit with Arlen Specter's "magic bullet theory" - and coincidently, Ford is the one who was picked by Nixon as "someone he could trust" when the whole rest of the world was caving in on him.... and every single one of those Watergate burglars had something to do with JFK...)

Anyway, enough of that. All I can tell you for sure is it warn't no ordinary mob hit.

You know about a guy named Boris Pash (born Pashkovsky?) He was a US army colonel, he was in charge of security at the Manhattan Project. At the time of the Kennedy assassination, he was the only other person in the country with "executive action" authorization, other than a CIA fellow named Bill Harvey (who was in charge of the ZR/RIFLE project). And it just so happens that Col Pash was also one of the two people at the top of the MK/ULTRA project (the other one being the CIA's Dr. Sidney Gottlieb).

There's much more to the JFK thing than meets anyone's eye. Democrats and Republicans were both involved, as was the Director of the FBI and at least three directors and former directors of the CIA. And if you trace the CIA lineage forward, you get to.... Richard Helms! And George HW Bush! and all kinds of other interesting people...

But, enough of that. (Without the truth, we could speculate all day long, and none of that speculation casts the US government in anything resembling a positive light).

Way to move the goalposts.

 

Can you point out where this president has shown any respect for the beliefs and ideologies of anyone other than himself?

You never know what his are going to be from one day to the next anyway...he's "evolving"!

 

Again...what the Political position of any President has nothing to do with the respect that should be show to the Office.

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Why is it just because I think the Office deserves respect that members here think I am some Obama supporter.

I am not.

AboveAlpha

 

Some of what you talk about could be the political sites like this one where most people have hard core views, beliefs and whether a president and even the office is good or bad all depends on the R and D besides his name.