RFK on gun control. FINALLY...

A rational Democrat.

“I do not believe that there is, within that second amendment, that there’s anything we can meaningfully do to reduce the trade in the ownership of guns,” he said, “and I’m not going to take people’s guns away.”

“Anybody who tells you that they’re going to be able to reduce gun violence through gun control at this point I don’t think is being realistic,” Kennedy added.

RFK Jr. argues gun control cannot ‘meaningfully’ reduce gun violence (msn.com)

If RFK makes it through the primaries, I do believe I'll be voting Democrat this cycle.

...though, I reckon the more 'progressive', left wing out there probably don't see RFK as a Democrat anymore. And I say 'anymore' because he is absolutely a Democrat ...from decades ago. He is JFK reincarnated, or as close as there can ever be.

Sorry Trump. I was gonna vote for you again, if for no other reason than to stick it to the entrenched bureaucracy that's intent on telling me I can't. But RFK actually knows what the real problems are. Gut instinct and good intentions can only take you so far. RFK actually knows ****. He's done his homework ...instead of hiring 'the best people' to do it for him.

 

Overall RFK will be reducing deaths because he has joined Donald Trump in letting the public know
that the war in Ukraine can be ended within 24 hours.

I don't think any other candidate was planning to do that
because they are all part of the Washington establishment and owned by the 'defense' industry.

 

I just finished watching his town hall event. I don't agree with him 100%, but I damn sure agree enough to vote for him. With Biden and the dems totally ignoring him, I wonder how he'll get a shot at the nomination. Guessing that he's gonna make enough noise and try to get enough support that he can't be ignored. Supposedly he's at 15% now. That should be enough but it's obvious his candidacy is being deliberately suppressed.

 

Kennedy is very interesting. Maybe his only chance is to go third party.....I wouldn't know. He definitely is not compatible with the DNC. Party doesn't matter a whole lot to me but the Democrat Party seems to all goosestep left together. It makes the diversity of Republicans the only game in town for me.

 

That's a pretty rational view. It's too bad he's a nutjob.

 

Which of his views do you consider 'nutjob'? Is it that corrupt corporations have acheived regulatory capture over our corrupt govt?

 

His anti-science views. Don't really want to give an anti-vaxxer a huge pulpit to spread that nonsense. If his anti-vax views only started with the COVID shots, I might be able to overlook that, but he was anti-vax even before then. We just had a president with a conspiracy theorist following wreak havoc on this country, I'm really not about to vote for another conspiracy theorist to come do the same.

 

Within the US there are politically two countries: 'the establishment' of the very rich
and their lackeys who feel respected and in some way a part of that group as long as they voice support of that group
and that's also the domain of the 'uniparty'.

And then outside the beltway is the other country of the commoners.

The commoners have beliefs between somewhat left and somewhat right but are not
at war with each other as the media suggests.

And us commoners get a lot of advertising from the media to support BLM or 150 genders or
to send more weapons to our war in the middle of Eastern Europe, so we do have some odd beliefs in with our common sense.

RFK makes more sense to us than anyone else does.
Donald Trump is a close second, but the media has it in for him big time and few of us
will support him in public but we vote for him in private.

 

I'll have to hear him, haven't yet but there seems to be a big push to put him front and center. Pundits are positively gushing over him even those at FOX. Are they sneaking up on us again?

 

It is not crazy to take on the establishment right now, both Donald Trump and RFK are doing that,
while a ton of other politicians are going with the flow of the establishment and getting little support from the public.

The difference between the two viable candidates is although Donald Trump was the best when he arrived,
RFK has a better handle on the details of coping with the regulatory capture you mentioned,
though Donald Trump would like to deal with that as well.

Two good candidates and we need one of them, or both, to be our next President,
and Tulsi and some other real people instead of cardboard cut out presidents who just get
walked over by the war mongers.

 

That's fair enough, and hopefully he stays consistent on that view of the 2nd Amendment to everyone he speaks to (and doesn't do the back and forth "Trump's tariffs sucked" [to wealthy globalist donors] vs "I'll tariff the **** out of Mexico" [to We The People] that Ron! DeSaster has been doing lately). What a disgusting dishonest PUKE he's turned out to be.........

I'm "Trump 2024 or bust" at this point, and I will be writing in his name if the establishment somehow finds a way to keep him off of the ballot, but if there's anyone else who I would consider voting for, it would be RFK. He seems sensible enough on a number of topics, and there will always at the very least be disagreements here and there no matter who the candidate is.

My main issues are having a candidate who will seriously stand against the continued selling out of the working class to globalists, and a candidate who understands how corrupt the Deep State is and will fight against it. Everyone else who is running this cycle doesn't stand a chance in hell at getting my vote during my entire lifetime, and I'm a fairly young person.

Just remember that the DNC club will do everything under their power (e.g. 'superdelegates') to stop RFK from becoming the nominee. He is not an "acceptable" Democrat, just as Trump is not an "acceptable" Republican. Due to this situation, I unfortunately think that RFK doesn't stand a chance in hell at getting the nomination. Hopefully he actually fights against the DNC corruption unlike Bernie who just bent over and took it even though he's who The People actually wanted (not Clinton nor Biden).

Thankfully, the RNC club has less ways to shut down "unacceptable" candidates, though they are still trying their best to shut down Trump (supporting the lawfare effort, spending mega dollars, using the Republican Governors Association to badmouth Trump, and courting governors who people generally like(d) in their States (DeSantis, Noem) as President/Vice President candidates in order to fool people into thinking that they’re getting what they want but are really just supporting an “establishment insurance policy candidate” who will then do just as the establishment wants them to do.) Pence as the VP was the establishment's 'insurance policy' re: the "unacceptable" Trump Admin.

 

Yup. Liberals are all about "group think". You have to agree with the "official leadership position" on any and every issue. If not, then you are (or are effectively) "the enemy" and are unworthy of respect.

Conservatives are all about diversity of thought. They like and appreciate different points of view, even if they don't hold onto those views themselves. It's a good opportunity to learn. Conservatives can have strong disagreements with each other and still respect each other in the end.

 

I bet you dollars to doughnuts that he's referring to RFK being an "anti-vaxxer".

Meh. Who cares. In fact, after the COVID mRNA jab-peddling crap, I'm about as close to being an "anti-vaxxer" as I've ever been. I've lost A LOT of trust in many institutions that I once trusted...

 

@modernpaladin And bingo, I was correct... Ask me how I knew...

 

Right. For me personally it's Trump #1 and RFK #2, but the same overall sentiment is shared. We're ultimately on the same side, and there's more of "us" than "them". I'm done voting for Uniparty garbage, done deluding myself into thinking that the "lesser of two evils" will make any sort of a difference when it comes to the working class getting bent over furniture by Uniparty globalists.

 

Definitely have to continuously vet him. It's always good practice.

For instance, I was supportive of DeSantis (now DeSaster), as GOVERNOR, not as President, until I saw him more and learned more about him. Now he's as off-putting to me as Jeb! or any other dishonest inauthentic establishment figure...

 

Bingo. This is the problem with the modern day liberal in general. They only hear what MSM and other people have to say about someone, rather than listening to that someone for themselves. This is the biggest problem with most people who despise Trump. They only hear what MSM says about him, and MSM purposely refuses to show Trump speaking for himself and will only show their audience what they perceive to be "damning" soundbites.

Conservatives aren't out of the weeds either... Turn off Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, et al (or at least take what they say with a grain of salt) and actually listen to the people themselves... especially what they say to different groups of people (e.g. 'donors' vs 'FOX' vs 'CNN' vs 'We The People').

I've listened to RFK speak and I generally like the guy. If I'd ever vote for a Democrat, he'd be the type of Democrat who I'd vote for (as opposed to the communists who they keep shoving onto us)... and I'd gladly vote for him over any 'professionally Republican' candidate such as Paul Ryan, Jeb! Bush, and now Ron! DeSaster.

Trump still gets my vote over him though, but I respect the views of others who prefer RFK over Trump. We're still ultimately looking for the same thing (pro-commoner, nationalism, fight the Deep State, anti-war, ...)

 

Liberals have made 'toleration' a virtue so despite agreeing on almost nothing, can form a 'big tent' including everyone and win an election.

Once in power, one faction does whatever they like and the result is a disaster.

Some want to destroy America, others don't so there's plenty of room to maneuver and
just play the game of making as much money off each side as possible.
That's the Clinton and the Biden policy of making as much money
for themselves as possible. And Hillary is still way ahead of the Bidens.

 

I can understand voting for Mr. T because he is a known and RFK is unproven.

There is a reason to suggest taking a small risk on someone unproven
and that is the country is now facing big trouble on many different fronts.

Economic: we have a two or three year delay in the fall of the US dollar due to
the decline of the Yuan as a result of China over reacting to the COVID
virus. But if we continue banning countries from using the US dollar they will
have to change to something better, and they are already beginning to do so.

Crime: Liberals deny absolute morality of any kind, therefore with no absolute
right and wrong they allow some people to get away with anything, and
imprison others for life without good evidence, depending on the quality
of the lawyer. Move them all to California and leave the Southern border open
only at California.

War: I remember Democrats claiming Trump would start wars but guess who
actually did? We now know what Biden/Hillary/Nuland were doing in Ukraine
in 2014. And now that Biden has escalated the violence he helped create back
then and since, they are all gung ho to have a confrontation with Russia.

Our war in Ukraine would be easy to conclude with a peace treaty,
one was drawn up in March 2022 just weeks after the start of the
current phase of the conflict, but it was cancelled by Britain and the US.

Vladmir Putin has been waiting on the other end of the phone for us to say
we won't move NATO and missiles into Ukraine, but we won't quit until we lose.

Our children need a country with a clear sense of purpose.

 

That's one of the reasons why Trump remains #1 for me. I've seen him in action and I know what to expect from him. I have built up trust in him to represent my policy interests.

RFK is currently more-so where Trump was for me back in 2015/2016... an unknown... saying the correct things for the most part, but no trust / track record built up as to what he'd actually do in office.

 

Good post.

 

I will listen to him when I can and judge for myself. I also like what I've seen of Tim Scott. I have never voted for a Democrat for President but what I really want is someone that make sense, not "there are faeries and unicorns at the bottom of my garden or Jack the ripper was misunderstood"

 

Because there's political disagreement, i.e. differences in values and disputed facts, and then there's crazy. Anti-vax, truthers, birthers, people who thought we faked the moon landing... those beliefs fall into the category of nutjob.