Rittenhouse Acquitted

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  1. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand the complaint. Kyle was not the precedent. Its always been catch and release for children.(Only recently now are minority minors being released, used to be only whites.) Its Kyles mother honestly who should be held accountable. Howd he even get the gun? I bet she put him up to it, etc etc. She needs to be charged next. I keep forgetting he is just a kid...both of em in that picture are.
    It used to be clown world with Trump..This was not a hate crime. He didnt even kill any minorities. You guys are happy right? Move on. If you wanna paint this guy some kind of hero, thats your politic.

    We got the memo. Just claim self defense.
     
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  2. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you can post all the nonsense you want and it still does not make it true.
     
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    Rittenhouse did everything exactly right.. he did not point his weapon at the arsonist, he put out the fires, he did not confront the rioters, he cleaned off their graffiti, He was doing what every adult citizen should have been doing, protecting life and property from invaders. He carried a weapon for protection, turns out he needed it. I would stand with this man, and those like him, those with the same moral compass, in similiar circumstances.
     
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    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting.
     
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    Judging by the reaction of most Americans it is a very sad day for America – it shows how divided people we are.
    What happened? A kid with AR15 rifle was allowed to walk streets and puts himself I difficult situation, kills 2 people and wounded one. IMHO he was not guilty, almost everyone in his situation would do the same, but suddenly ½ of America celebrates and ½ of America is depressed.
    My prediction – if Trump will decide to run in 2024 and if he will lose again, for sure he will claim there was an election fraud, but this time he will be much smarter.
    My guess – people who support Kyle will join Trump claim, people who are angry about the sentence will oppose Trump.
    New American civil war?
     
  6. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Your opinion flies in the face of the evidence. Apparently you didn't watch the trial. Neither did the mainstream media since they are still pushing out the fake news. Since nobody involved was anything other than white, then race had nothing at all to do with it. Sorry.
     
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    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    Why didn't the jury agree with you and found him not guilty instead?
     
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    GlobalCitizen Well-Known Member

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    He didn't put himself in that situation. Politicians did.
     
  10. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please allow me to assist, like I did when you got confused about Florida open carry law

    WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "INNOCENT" AND "NOT GUILTY"?
    In short, "not guilty" is not the same as "innocent." Innocent means that a person did not commit the crime. Not guilty means that the prosecution could not prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" that a person committed the crime. Therefore, the court does not pronounce someone as “innocent” but rather “not guilty”.

    WHAT IS INNOCENT?
    When you've been charged of a crime, you are assumed to be innocent until proven guilty. By the end of a criminal trial, you will either be declared "guilty" or "not guilty." Technically, the court never declares someone "innocent" because it is not necessary to prove actual innocence in order to be acquitted. The prosecution's job is to convince the jury that the defendant is guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt." Going the extra step of proving actual innocence is not required in order to avoid conviction.

    In some cases, evidence will arise that proves actual innocence; programs like The Actual Innocence Claim Policy and Protocol in Missouri endeavor to minimize false convictions by providing evidence that proves innocence. However, it still remains a part of our country's justice system that you do not need to be proven innocent in order to be declared "not guilty."

    WHAT IS "NOT GUILTY"?
    As mentioned before, the prosecution has to prove that a defendant committed a crime "beyond a reasonable doubt." This clause means that even if the jury largely thinks that a defendant committed a crime, they must not have any doubt about it.

    Doubt can be inserted into a case by the defense calling the prosecution's case into question. For example, this can be done by presenting witnesses who claim the defendant was with them at a different location when the crime occurred.

    Being found "not guilty" doesn't necessarily mean you are innocent. Instead, it means that the evidence was not strong enough for a guilty verdict.
     
  11. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure. Here in Florida is it not allowed in public, which is why Florida is considered "Non-Permissive". Hunting and target shooting are exceptions for the obvious reasons (it is impossible to shoot and/or hunt unless you take your firearm out).

    Here is the list of all States and how they handle it. As you say Colorado it is allowed unless specifically prohibited at local level.
     
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    He id guilty of killing, and does not deny it, but the jury deemed his killings justified under the self defense claim.
     
  14. Bluesguy

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    An innocent has been set free, THAT is how justice works. What "justice" do the families of the three criminals who were shot deserve.
     
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    He used his right of self defense to stop the attacks if two got killed as a result of them attacking him in order to kill or seriously injure him OH WELL. Couldn't they have not attacked him?
     
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    Kyle is not "guilty of" anything. If you want to say he is responsible for killing those criminals that attacked him, or that he did kill those criminals that attacked him, fine, but using the word "guilty" to describe him the day after he's actually been acquitted looks like sour grapes from the losing side.
     
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    He did handle "this kind [o]f weapon" very "effectively". That's why he's alive today.
     
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    Do you know how I know you haven't bothered to investigate even the most basic facts surrounding Kyle's self-defense shootings and acquittal?
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Funny, I thought Kyle drove himself from Antioch Illinois to Kenosha not a politician.
     
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    I just spent the last week conducting the single most brutal training exercise of my entire career. Even before I left knowing what I was about to endure I kept asking myself if any of this is even worth it anymore. I woke up every morning this past week in physical pain and misery and those sentiments became even stronger. Why do I keep putting myself through this and fighting for my country that is rapidly deteriorating into something I don't even recognize anymore. Is it even worth my sacrifices anymore?

    First thing I did when I trudged back to civilization was drop my gear and collapse against a wall shivering uncontrollably and quickly trying to warm my feet up hoping I didn't have frostbite on my toes. I grab my phone and plug it in and pull up the news to see what happened to Kyle. Took me a while because I couldn't feel my hands. "Not Guilty" on all accounts....I toss the phone down while every extremity on my body slowly thawed out feeling like thousands of needles burning fire into my skin. I look around and see the rest of the boys with bloodshot eyes and clinched teeth trudging in and collapsing down next to me and I lean back and smile.

    My country does still exist. The evil mob justice activists and media couldn't penetrate this trial and crucify this kid in spite of their blatant outright lies and defamation. The jurors did what was right, not what was easy in spite of them knowing how the mob and the media works in this country right now. To the judge and jury and all those who supported Kyle, I salute you. What gives me the strength to suffer and sacrifice in the most extremely brutal environmental conditions on this planet are people like you. Thank You for saving that young mans life.

    And I hope he sues the ever loving crap out of every single one of these media outlets.
     
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    You can argue that until the proverbial cows come home, and I do get your point and can see how you'd feel that way, but without the specifics, which your article didn't include, how do we know the circumstances of this one kid getting bail?
     
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    Snarky. I'm not your "son."

    It doesn't matter what you think, either.
     
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    Pedos?

    (Yeah, I know ... I'm gonna be sorry I asked.)
     
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    Just look up the incident man. Timothy Simpkins. The kid shot up his school and was out on bail the same day. Name a white school shooter that was out on bail like that after shooting up a school. This whole “white privilege” stuff is absolute garbage and anyone with a functioning brain knows it.
     
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    It seems to me that there has been a proper trial with a jury and the defendant has been aquitted. That would normally be the end of the story unless there are grounds for appeal. That's how the CJS works. We don't have trial by mob anymore, so the other opinions here are not relevant. If you feel that the CJS needs to be reformed then that is a matter between you and your representatives.
     

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