robert reich is floating "liz cheney " for president

and he makes a good case. quoting her speech on the house floor in jan 2021 .....

"Much more will become clear in the coming days and weeks, but what we know now is enough. The President of the United States summoned this mob, assembled the mob, and lit the flame of this attack. Everything that followed was his doing. None of this would have happened without the President. The President could have immediately and forcefully intervened to stop the violence. He did not. There has never been a greater betrayal by a President of the United States of his office and his oath to the Constitution."

my own opinion : not no bit hell no. yes, it has taken courage for her to stand up to dear leader bit she is also a very conservative traditional republican. the kind i have opposed for my adult life.

after ms cheney loses in her reelection primary, biden should offer her a job, maybe as ambassador to someplace quiet and peaceful. do you think the senate would confirm that nomination?

Robert Reich: Liz Cheney For President? – OpEd – Eurasia Review

 

Well she's sure as heck gonna need some sort of new employment about 5 minutes after the next election in Wyoming.

 

they are watching these hearings in wyoming as well, and ms cheney is coming across as sane. it may be too soon to tell if the trumpist can beat her

 

Given that Cheney actually has conservative bona fides, ones that Trump never had, and shows fidelity to her oath of office, something Trump never did, and has displayed integrity in her pursuit of the truth, something that is contrary to every fiber of Trump's being..........why wouldn't Repubs support her? Oh yeah, she called the Big Lie a big lie. Never mind.

 

Poor Robert, his pool of potential patrons is rapidly dying off. Liz isn't going anywhere nationally. She's on her way out in Wyoming. Democrats gonna democrat though. Graft, living above the law, the crime. It's the total package..

 

You have to chuckle when the opposition party starts offering up candidates they think you should run. You dug that dude who ultimately ended up getting arrested in Miami after a night of drug fueled sex with multiple men, didn't you....

 

Radio adds are popping up now, made me laugh, one say's "Liz is good for Wyoming, Liz doesn't even know where Wyoming is" done by locals lolol

 

They say she is one of the last remaining Reagan conservatives, but in today's populist Republican party that translates to RINO. If someone like her ran with someone like Manchin, this country would see hope again.

 

IMO, Liz Cheney will be the Independent presidential candidate because dems won't go for her right-winged fascism, er, neoconism.

With 3 presidential candidates in the race, IMO, there's another good chance the presidential winner won't have a plurality of the vote.

 

To much baggage, starting with her popz!

 

Those who call Liz Cheney a Reagan democrat are misinformed. Reagan was conservative. There's no way Liz Cheney is conservative no matter how deluded she is.

 

Realize that authoritarians like progressives and neocons flock together...I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that fight when progressives and neocons disagree with each other.

 

I think they are ok with her, since she is not a party-line puppet like the rest of GOP reps. She is seen as moderate, even though most of her views are conservative.

 

No one calls her Reagan democrat, they call her Reagan conservative / Reagan Republican.

 

Whatever, dude.

 

She is neither.

 

Your comments in the other thread already showed that in your opinion a person is not conservatives unless views are 100% libertarian / anarchist. Cheney's political views are conservative. If you don't think so, then why not explain why. In the other thread you said its because she it on the Jan-6 panel, but that says nothing about her political views. You just believe all Republicans should remain loyal to Trump, but there is nothing conservative in such mindset.

 

i don't think so. she will stay in a party that rejected her and try to change it from within. won't work.

 

The notion of Liz Cheney being viable for the presidency is nonsensical.

On top of being a political lightweight, her shared hatred of Trump is not enough to make Democrats vote for a Republican, and that same hatred for Trump is enough to make Republicans that support Trump (which is most) vote against her.

Her support would be close to zero, and her campaign would never make it to the first primary in Iowa. Any support she would garner would be from Democrats crossing over to vote for her in the primaries, that would have zero intention of voting for her in the general.

 

Why does her refusal to kiss Trumps ass translate to "hatred"?

I would not worry about how Dems vote, or how Republicans vote. Only 28% of Americans are Dems, and 28% are Republicans, and they will always vote for their party. Independent vote wins elections.

 

She does not like him. Squabbling what to call that dislike is a colossal waste of time. Anyone not trying to be unnecessarily smarmy knows full well what is meant by saying her hatred for Trump.

I think that you are overstating the percent of people that have votes that could go either way, but even if we accept your numbers as fact, independents do NOT determine who wins their party's nomination. In order to get to a general election, one must first win the nomination. Liz Cheney would not have a practical path to winning the nomination. If in some alternate universe she won the nomination, she would get almost no support from the 28% that are Democrats and she would get far less support and turnout from Republicans that a typical Republican would get, and she most certainly would not get near 100% of what you are calling independents. Independents break more along the lines of 60-40, not 90-10 which would be required for some long shot candidacy like Cheney

Sincerely, pondering a presidential run for her is an exercise in futility. A better moderate to ponder would be Manchin, who is far more respected as a political heavyweight, and even with him, the numbers would never work. Such a notion is fools gold. Manchin might perhaps be a cross over Vice President candidate for a Republican trying to reach across the aisle, but that is about the extent of it.

 

Liz doesn't remember what Wyoming is. She's been sucked into the quagmire that is the DC circuit. She won't be in office long. Jan 1 2023 is her end by date. When folks in Wyoming hear those ads, I bet they cringe. I can't think of a single person I know there that supports her.

 

Liz doesn't pull conservative votes, or for that matter, republican votes. She likely takes far more votes than generic democrat does in the race though.

 

Her actions are proving dat in and day out that she isn't conservative in any functional way. She's more democrat than not. Folks bought the marketing that she could be conservative, and the next election will rectify that misunderstanding.

 

28% are D
28% are R
40% are I

You think Republicans would rather vote for a Dem candidate than their own? Now THAT is alternate universe. Of course they would vote for her

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Yes, he would be a good VICE for a GOP president.