Roe overturned

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  1. Condor060

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    You claim God is am imaginary friend, then ask that question?
    Don't tell us, its sarcasm, right?
    Just wow. I have never seen anyone on PF put their own foot in their own mouth as much as you do.

    So tell us, which is it?
    Is God an imaginary being?
    Or are the scriptures real?

    We all know whats coming next

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  2. LangleyMan

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    You try and try...

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    Perhaps, you need a friend...

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  3. Condor060

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    Like I said, we all knew what was coming when you were asked the direct question and forced into a corner to answer.
    I appreciate you confirming what I posted

    Or maybe you can try again?

    Is God an imaginary being?
    Or are the scriptures you use real?

    Are these questions too difficult for you?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Embrace your inner authoritarian Condor! Go for it dude. :applause:
     
  5. Condor060

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    Good to know you agree with the post
    Thank you
     
  6. LangleyMan

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    Your questions are irrelevant to me.
    Oh, I can only imagine what your fevered mind thinks I confirmed.
    Is their a creator? Don't know, don't care. The idea of a personal god, everlasting life, etc. is extremely far-fetched nonsense, although it works well for controlling people.

    Of course, the scriptures are real. They're the claptrap Christians gathered and/or cooked up for their book.
     
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  7. Condor060

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    So you post scriptures to make personal attacks while claiming you know God is just an imaginary friend.
    So you admit that you just flip flop back and forth when ever you can make a post you think is an intelligent response.
    Your admission is appreciated
    But we all already knew it.
     
  8. LangleyMan

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    No, "God" is your "Imaginary Friend," a pal for which you have no sensible evidence.
    Another of your efforts to put words in my mouth. :deadhorse:
     
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    Really? Prove it.
    Guaranteed you'll run
    You mean quoting from your own post?
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    The erosion of society is because of the position that says the fetus is just cells. As I type there are 10,000's of babies in ICU's, suffering, because this idea, that what's in a pregnant mother has no value, is affecting their decisions (like drugs) while pregnant. It's been like this for decades, and it's only getting worse.
     
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    No, my body, my choice when it comes to vaccines. The problem with applying that to abortion is that two bodies are at stake.
     
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    Should pregnant women really have bodily autonomy? In ALL possible circumstances?

    Let's say I was Elon rich, and I detected a niche demand for watching pregnant women fight MMA. Would it be OK for me to troll poorer communities in order to recruit pregnant women to fight in the ring for money? Her body, her choice right? And BTW, don't dare be misogynistic and judge her choice, for any reason, to include getting in the ring and taking a few blows.

    AND WEIGHING IN AT 195 POUNDS, FROM PORTLAND OREGON, 7 MONTHS PREGNANT, OUR PREGNANT MMA CHAMPION..."

    Her choice. No judgment. Always. Really?
     
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    Where did I say anything about no judgment?
    People should be able to make decisions that govern themselves — until a fetus can exist outside of the mother then it it’s rights should not supersede the rights of the mother.
     
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    I suspect that you don't really believe that, and if I were able to sit by you, ringside, at a pregnant woman MMA fight, I would be able to prove it as we watched the fetus get pummeled.

    It's not an extreme position to say that there must be AT LEAST some limits on the body choices of a pregnant woman.

    And I was simply repeating what I hear so often: if you judge a woman's decision on what to do with her body while pregnant, you are misogynistic.
     
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    Oh I 100% believe that. Without bodily autonomy all other rights mean nothing.

    What I would prefer is medical advancement that would allow the ability to extract the zygote or fetus from a mother that doesn’t want it so there would be no loss of life. I would also love to see programs that help nurture children after they have been born. 11.6 million children live in poverty, most of them food insecure — I think we should focus on those before we force women to have children they don’t want.
     
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    Negative because nobody has a right to your stuff. The fetus rights end when they violate the woman's. She has the right to defend herself.
    The fetus being defenseless does not mean it's harmless.
     
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    That position also justifies smoking crack while pregnant.

    The side effect of promoting that viewpoint over decades = hundreds of thousands of babies squirming in misery in ICU's, as I type this.

    There are only 2 paths to end this suffering in our country (and it has grown dramatically since I started posting on this 12 years ago):

    1. Force the millions of women doing meth, crack, etc., while pregnant to get an abortion.

    Obviously immoral and anti freedom.

    2. Create and push a narrative for decades that directly opposes the one you are parroting: that the fetus has value, is a person, that you are responsible for that person being in your womb, and that person has rights.
     
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    About af effective as promoting abstinence for rape victims. Mothers on crack arnt going to stop because of a few TV ads..
    How about in the spirit of liberty, we abolish prohibition, give woman their natural born right to control their own bodies, if they choose to carry to term..our newly enacted UHC would be there to assist.
    With UHC in order to receive medical care, they would agree to enter rehab and thus would have the help they needed to not smoke crack while pregnant.

    Giving a fetus privlages over a woman's rights is immoral, as you may be canceling future lives when she decides to start a family later with a responsible husband.
     
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    I'm just saying, I've been homeless, and I've lived in abandoned houses, and neighborhoods, where a good percentage of the people living there use hard drugs. And I've had these conversations with those people regarding pregnancy and drugs, and the inevitable human suffering incoming in a few months. Despite my low position in society, I hadn't lost my soul, and at least was willing to use words to prevent that suffering. Those words were, and still are: there is value in there, there is a person in there, the consequences of what you (or her, as admittedly, many of these discussions were behind her back with others) do aren't just experienced by you.

    And I discovered that the primary barrier to my getting through, and thus preventing human suffering, is this pro choice narrative, which states the opposite of my position, and devalues the fetus.

    And it's not a narrative that they concoct as they argue with me. It's been fed to them, through various forms of media.

    So when I said that your narrative promotes suffering (and on a level, NOW, that dwarfs the HYPOTHETICAL human suffering involving coathangers we are to imagine LATER with an abortion ban), I meant it.
     
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    So the pro choice narrative made them go through with having a baby that's suffering in ICU?
    When you get ur story straight, tell it as if you are talking to someone one who wouldn't have been born had their mother not had an abortian at an early age. If you could go back and force a happily married woman with 4 kids to carry her previous abortian to term thus eliminating her current reality, would you?
     
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    The fact that they are being taught in schools, in Netflix series, in news, podcasts, memes, and by politicians behind podiums that their rights totally trump the rights of the fetus (including their right to seek pleasure through drugs in their minds), is, imo, the primary contributing factor to the absolute national shame occurring now (10,000s of babies suffering in ICU's at any given moment) that most don't want to acknowledge, because that narrative is easily accepted (regardless of merit) out of convenience.

    It's not about who someone would have hypothetically started a family with if they weren't able to get an abortion. I'm talking about how to solve a massive and growing national tragedy right now. And I'm saying the prochoice narrative conflicts with the solution.
     
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    How do you plan on mandating good parenting, with government force? As that's the solution to that problem. None of what you blame supersedes competent parenting. Liberty works with good parenting. Conservative policy regulating liberty will never replace that, and has proven to be a failed tactic.
     
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