Russia’s novel use of Iranian drones in Ukraine serves as classroom for Western militaries

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  1. Esau

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    Then.

    Just WOW.
     
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    Which is strange. Russia's new 'Armata' main battle tank (new as in still technically in developement- last I saw there were less than 100 to exist and none have been used in Ukraine) was built from the ground up with the intent of being focussed around an 'electronic battlefeild network' that would rely heavily on drones. So its not like Russia has been ignoring the dynamic... The tank or the network not being ready yet isn't surprising. But if Russia doesnt even have (or can't use) its own drones...

    Its no secret that Russia has been intent on not using its 'top tier' equipment in Ukraine (naither has NATO), but drones are not new technology.
     
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    Absolutely
     
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    The Russians have drones but their drones aren't very good. Nor are they practical tactically. Their drones are also heavily reliant on western components.
    https://www.jpost.com/international/article-718305
    Russian-made drones not meeting Ukraine battlefield requirements
    Russia had been using Iranian drones in its war with Ukraine.
     
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    The various U.S. military branches created different systems to counter the specific drones they faced, but these systems don’t communicate with each other well enough, Grynkewich said, adding that better coordination and technology are needed.​

    So much for that "revolution."
     
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    If all a unit's focus, resources and attention is put on countering these drones, they can be countered to some extent. That isn't however a luxury anyone will enjoy in a real war.
    https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/09...p-close-they-could-help-russia-fight-ukraine/
    I Have Seen Iran’s Drones Up Close: They Could Help Russia Fight Ukraine
     
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    ...yeah I'm pretty sure there'll be a link to Cancon somewhere...:D
     
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    nah....that's not true.....I mean Israel for example they really get the idea behind drones but nevertheless are investing a shed load in aircraft.
    The only reason Iran is hooting so much about these gadgets is they can't get hold of front line first rate fixed wing so are harping on about the drones. I mean sure they have their place but they aren't going to win wars.
    I have a feeling you're mixing up drones with UAS's (being a UAV ecosystem)? If you are talking about UAS then...well...that's a possibility?
     
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    I think you are the one mixing up things but let it be...
     
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    or jam the GPS...?
     
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    In the meantime, Ukraine is alleging that Iranian drones are being deployed in Belarus by the Russians.
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia-sends-iranian-drones-belarus-minsk-threatens-deployment
    Russia sends Iranian drones to Belarus as Minsk threatens deployment
    Russia sends Iranian drones to Belarus as he pummels Ukaine with UAVs
     
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    Putin can’t beat Ukraine’s army, so now he is trying to break the will of the people WW2 style. Too bad he has oil and nukes or we could do a Nuremberg on Vlad the Bomber.
     
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    The Shahed 136 can theoretically be vulnerable to electronic counter-measures but its system is designed to be resistant to such jamming. Besides, in practice, for a variety of reasons, this is not a practical option. They are more vulnerable to shoulder carried manpads and missiles. The other models reportedly delivered to Russia (pictured below) are a different story. Israeli F-35s and US F-15s have shut down a few, but they have at other times successfully evaded Israeli air defenses and flown and kept into heavily guarded Israeli airspace for close to one hour before returning to base.
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    Critical Ukrainian infrastructure were hit this morning by Russia near Kyiv. The details are still sketchy.

    https://www.fox23.com/news/world/ukraines-kyiv-area/V3YRC4CFCG3IYV26KV27667FB4/
    Ukraine's Kyiv area hit by Iranian-made kamikaze drones
     
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    Yes ... We all "support" Iranian made drones that attack and kill Ukrainian innocent civilians.
    Inshallah Allahh will take care of the evil Ayatullas.
     
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    Iranian drones are precision guided tools used to hit predetermined military and critical infrastructure targets. In the the attack against Saudi Arabia's Aramco facilities, for instance, a good chunk of the world's oil supplies were shut down without any reported civilian casualties. The casualties from Russia's attacks on Kyiv on Monday were likely caused by Russian missiles which are far less precise, while the energy facilities that were struck with these drones left few casualties but shut off a good part of Ukraine's electricity. In this latest attack, carried out by drones, no casualties have been reported but Ukraine has acknowledged "critical infrastructure" was hit.
     
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    Again, It's so sad that You and your country Iran support the killing of innocent Ukrainian civilians.
     
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    Drone Rap.
    Get Miley Cyrus on one.
     
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    Do you like the background music to this video?
     
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    Lets see how effective they will be?
    https://www.stripes.com/incoming/2022-10-13/nato-europe-sky-shield-7676809.html
    NATO to deliver drone jammers to Ukraine, bolster European air defense
     
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    I guess if the shoe was on the other foot, we would be hearing a lot more about this.
    https://frontierindia.com/historic-...-trying-to-shoot-an-iranian-shahed-136-drone/
    Historic! A kamikaze drone downs a fighter aircraft, Ukrainian MiG-29 crashes trying to shoot an Iranian Shahed-136 drone
    Ukrainian MiG-29 crashed trying to shoot down an Iranian drone. Ukrainian armed forces have been using all available means to try and stop Iranian drones.
     
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    enter stage left.....the Uke UAV interceptor....clever chaps these UKes

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