Russia DID NOT hack the DNC...

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    What from the DNC had any influence on the election? Or are the intelligence agencies just assuming that it did?
     
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    I disagree. For the simlpe fact that a few emails doesn't affect an election, it had to be more (but thats my opinion only). Im willing to wait until the facts come out in the full investigation before I decide how much they were able to affect the election.
     
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    Right now, the only thing anyone knows is the few emails from the DNC server. were released. Everything else is wild speculation. This doesn't include Podesta's emails that came out way later in the election cycle.
     
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    Can I dismiss John McAfee because he is long gone over the edge to crazy? Nutty as a fruitcake? A loon? Three French fries short of a Happy Meal?

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...security-legend-futuretense-alabama/21712017/

    Your nut-job is wrong from the start. It is relatively easy to determine which hacker(s) pull off individual hacks. Every hacker (who is not a kiddie scripter) is unique. They leave "fingerprints" in the form of code snippets, variable names, folder names, tools used, and so forth.

    Now identifying a hacker and knowing his name and location are indeed separate things but identifying the individual hacker or hacker group is not especially difficult.
     
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    It's my belief as well.

    We have 300+ million people who like to think they aren't slaves, and that they actually have a will and a chance to enact the things that matter to them and society through free and fair elections. It's what keeps people docile, and content.
    We only really have 2 Parties with any chance of winning an election.

    All of a sudden at least one of those parties has it's dirty secrets exposed, and people might see through the illusion.....so a distraction is needed. You don't want people dwelling on what they saw, and starting to think about just how fair and free those parties and the elections really are......so change the narrative.

    Anytime the leaks come up...pivot to "the enemy" instead....the Russians!!! Don't let the headlines stay on the content of said leaks or people will start to realize real election meddling is happening right at home. For example, Donna Brazile didn't get questions from Putin, but was caught trying to help Hillary win the debates against Sanders.

    IMO, The Russian narrative is a big Wizard of Oz, don't pay any attention to the man behind the curtain.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    agents of Russian intelligence, not neccessarily payrolled Russian employees, did the hacking.
     
  7. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    The investigators wont be conducting a nationwide poll to determine what effect the leaked emails had on the election. Other than that, there is nothing to investigate. They've already determined by assumption that it did.
     
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    What are their names?
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Your article list Jeff Sessions first, but it doesn't reveal a single "financial tie" to Russia.
     
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    And the disinformation keeps churning out from the Russian cyber warfare machine. When the hell are the trumpettes going to wake up and figure out they've been had.

    Trump Patriotism and strategy for making america great again seems to include hiring putin puppet campaign chairmen and bag men, foreign friggin' agent National Security Advisors, the biggest anti-climate changer on the planet in the ex chairman of Exxon Mobil, cabinet members with zero domain expertise and a special advisor whose stated objective is the administrative deconstruction of the American government.

    Wave that flag boys. Bumbling and stumbling isn't usually the way to winning. Oh, yeah, when is that going to start? Bet america can't wait to get sick of all that winning.
     
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    Stop being silly...Google is your friend, but you know what...regardless off what is provided, birthers toe the Trump bull-**** line...

    All of the Trump Administration's Ties to Russia (That We Know About)
    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a53134/trump-administration-russia-ties/
     
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    What nonsense. Please simply explain why the DNC refused the FBI access to the server they (the DNC) claimed was hacked?
     
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    One of the preferred sources of "info" by American quislings.
     
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    Democrats have lost their collective minds, they need to stop projecting because it's going to backfire and then they will have to start offing their own members so the Truth won't come out any further...
     
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    "If Trump wins, we'll all hang by nooses!"
    -Hillary Clinton
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Your the only one who has been had. Convinced that John McAfee and Infowars.com are a part of a "Russian cyber warfare machine"
     
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    The plebes seriously believe Russia is not malignant, that Putin's Empire had no impact on the US, that they never dabbled in the Cyber War with the US.

    Need I remind you, Russia is not the effigy of freedom the US should mimic or even endow with authenticity. In Russia, this happens:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko

    Yes. This is what FREEDOM looks like to the Russians, but they would never, ever interfere with the US, it's strategic opposition in the massive geopolitical holohoax the world powers have perpetrated on us.

    Yes, this Russia, this is the one we should ally with:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Joyal

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yushchenko

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Shchekochikhin

    One thing Trump and Putin seem to have in common is a noble disdain for a free press. How far off the plank are we that we now consider Russian influence in our elections a lie?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zelimkhan_Yandarbiyev

    The bloodshed never ends. And now we have an intelligence service claiming the Russians have hacked the DNC and most likely other institutions of our government, but Russia has somehow earned the benefit of the doubt from our plebian friends on the right.

    No. Russia would -never- do such a thing. In mother Russia, it's just a normalcy of life that people are murdered with polonium tablets, or shot with radioactive materials from a umbrella gun. Where the media is silenced with a literal knife in the dark.

    Only plebian morons would actually believe that Russia has earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their international crimes.

    And then, they claim Trump's election was the death of globalism.

    Don't worry, folks. It's all going...according to plan.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    AND STILL! John McAfee and Infowars.com are NOT a part of a "Russian cyber warfare machine"
     
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    Nope, I never remotely suggested that either of those two nutcases was part of russian cyber warfare.

    But then again, Infowars is a great place to " anonymously leak" disinformation and conspiracy theories, not to mention generate faux outrage amongst his listeners, the bulk of whom have proven to be rather gullible.
     
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    This isnt a leak. This is John McAfee who while a known eccentric is also one of the world's best cyber security experts giving his professional opinion. What the left hates is tge McAfee is actually very good at distilling the ideas to the layman. He makes a clear concise case about why any claimed "rissian ties" are bull because the technology simply doesn't exist to make such an attribution. Any halfway descent hacker is going to cover their tracks and leave no trail or a false trail. Just this past 2 weeks we learned that the CIA has its own program to leave fake breadcrumbs pointing to Russia.

    The left especially has this blind faith in the state snd believe the CIA and the FBI unquestionably. We have one of the world's best experts stating unequivocally that the ability to make the claims that the CIA and the FBI simply does not exist.

    Bloomberg ran a story months ago expaining how the CIA and FBI do these attributions. Its not as hightech and fool proof as you think and has been very flawed in the past using the Soney hacking as an example.

    "The attribution of a cyber attack to a particular nation-state often relies on the results of previous assessments, and on the assumption that those earlier assessments were correct. Problem is, there’s rarely any affirmative validation. If we correctly identify North Korea as the perpetrator of a hack, no North Korean official will come forward and say “Whoops! You got us!”"



    This attribution of previous assessments is earriley similar to the intelligence build-up to the Iraq War. Assessments were built upon assessments but underneath there were little actually facts. On bad assessment would snowball into a torrent of other bad assessments each building on the last with even further assumptions.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-12-13/don-t-assume-that-russia-hacked-the-u-s-election
     
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    Near campaigns end, the Obama admin, the DNC and the liberal MSM began putting the spotlight on Russia. We all knew that Wikileaks was proving more and more corruption and collusion between the MSM, the DNC, the Clinton campaign and the Democrat party in general. So the lefts effort to take the spotlight off the left and onto Russia. Then to connect Russia to the Trump campaign by insinuation. And now the full scale assault by the liberal MSM on everything related to the Trump administration. So what we have here is the criminal left trying to frame and sully their political adversary, President Trump. It is clear to everyone with eyes, ears and a brain, that the leftist media is adversarial to the Trump Presidency. They are despicable.
     
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    The Russians hacked the Department of Motor Vehicles? So whose administration was in charge of keeping the hackers out?
     
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    I typed DNC but my auto-correct turned it to DMV.
     

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