Salt Lake City - Police shot 13 year old with autism

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  1. Reasonablerob

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    Because if the child was that violent, who else would you send?
     
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    Or they'll tell the truth, that this kid was violent and crazy and they had no choice but to defend themselves, how can you jump to conclusions when you don't even know the facts?
     
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    Yes you do, if they present a threat to life, this kid obviously did.
     
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    Or maybe you really are that stupid and sarcasm (the lowest form of wit) is just what you use to try to cover it up?#

    Am I being serious? You tell me:wink:
     
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    First of all, wjhat did the mother tell what help she wants, eh? For sur enot police officers playing John Wayne! She called 911 what is the common and correct number if someone needs help, eh? Read again what she said and then keep silent with your silly defending of these idiots and scum in police uniform!

    2 officers are not able to handle the situation without gun use tells all ... all about the lousy training and their incompetence! Out of control, yes ... but then it is legitimate to shot?
    Ungrateful? Are you kidding? Grateful for what please? What was their help here ... to shot the boy? Come on ... have you smoked some wrong stuff or what is the case with you here?

    And about the Neo Nazis ... first of all they attacked a person and I helped to stop this Nazi scum. Secondly then one of them attacked me and that ended for him in hospital, not on graveyard and I didn't use any sort of weapon and only that what I have learned! And if this would have ended deadly for the Nazi, then it would be no problem and is covered by law under self defence!
    But I am not a cop and only a citizen ... so must I learn and know how to handle such a situation with de-escalation and to calm down the boy instead shooting like gun monkeys? No!
     
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    That's what the hospital is for, you go right there and they sort you out. A disease is dealt with by doctors, some kid having a spaz attack is his mothers' problem, not emergency services.
     
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    That is a really fancy use of the small sample fallacy, great use of color and font!
     
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    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    So a screaming Child who is running away - is obviously a Fair Game - to be gunned
    down by Officer "Reasonablerob" -- And this Porcine Doofus with a badge & a gun
    .................................................................................................................................................................. calls me STUPID [​IMG]

    Beware & Be Aware Officer Rob -
    Americans are a heavily armed People who will not take kindly to overt Abuse inflicted
    by gangs of
    Roid'd Up Warrior Cops. - And if Police are NOT to be held accountable
    by Societies Justice System. Then they will inevitably be held accountable by the People

    If the Police can take it upon themselves to - Act Above the Law, as Judge, Jury and
    Executioner then there are those People who will inevitably follow suite & the Exceptional
    .............................................. USA will swiftly devolve into Bloody Ugly Fascist polluted Anarchy

    P
    olice Officers had best quickly wise up. - There will be BlowBack, and it will be Tragic.
    A
    nd it will lead in to an unstoppable escalation. Already we see Catastrophe begin to raise
    ................................................................................................................................................................................... its Ugly Head



    Ambushed !
    LA Cops Were Shot Near The Compton Police Station. The Same
    Police Station Linked to The Alleged
    Gang Of Rogue Officers


    https://newsone.com/4013931/compton-ambush-lasd-police-station-reports/

    [​IMG]


    "Executioners": Deputy Gang With Matching Tattoos
    Rules Compton Station, LASD Deputy Alleges | ABC7





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    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    One would have to be Willfully Ignorant to the point of being Brain Dead to NOT realize that
    there are Literally Thousands of Unanswered cases of Extreme Excessive Force Abuse
    that have been committed by Police, who have been trained to a Corrupt Warrior Ethos

    Why in Hell do YOU think that people have taken to the Streets ? - I choose to high-light but
    two striking examples that most people will be aware of - My case does not depend on these
    ................................. two examples, and I doubt if PF would tolerate me laying out the Thousands.
    ......................................................................................................................................... So NO small sample fallacy here


    see here:
    A True BLUE Police Officer with a SANE perspective to the PROBLEM

    A person who should command our Respect & Gratitude
    He feels that the Warrior Ethos must be tempered with a Guardian Ethos


    How The Warrior Mindset Shapes Law Enforcement
    | Dean Crisp | TEDxTryon
    YouTube


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    OK - I'll tell yOU this:
    y
    OU -
    my friend are sick serious as a Brain Tumor
    If yOU actually believe that a Child having an Asperger's Episode
    and who is running away from yOU is Fair Meat for yOUr Gun

    But knowing that yOU probably routinely carry a Gun, I would prefer
    to believe that yOU don't actually believe this, and rather that yOU
    were caught by the tangled laces of your own argument - and the
    Warrior Ethos to which yOU are so tightly attuned will not allow
    ..................................................................................... yOU to surrender to Reason.
     
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  11. Buri

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    Idiots have taken to the streets because they want to commit crime with no interference. Oh, and "thousands" vs millions of peaceful encounters seems disingenuous at best.
     
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    Funny how Protesters in pretty well any other place in the World are seen
    by most of you Warriors as Freedom Fighters - But bring those complaints
    just a little bit closer to home, - eg. Protests involving the innumerable excesses of
    The US standing army, the Warrior Class Porcine Constabulary,- (of which
    YOU guys seem to be members,) and you Hero's immediately define them Dam'd
    Protesters as Idiot Criminals, or Vagrant Sheep that deserve a Severe Sheep
    DOG
    Spanking - And they then very quickly become YOUR Victims
    ....... [​IMG]
    Irregardless of the uncomfortable FACT that most of them are just fed-up with you
    guys brutally beating Citizens up for Jaywalking, or for Murdering one of their
    friends because you "Feared For Your Life" because the guy had a hose nozzle
    in his hand, and you then called down the GOD of "Qualified Immunity" to cover
    ............................................................................... your tuchus and got off with a Paid Holiday


    Yoh ! Buri - Reasonablerob Do YOU guys have your
    Punisher Blue Line Buttons and Psycho Tattoo's yet ? [​IMG]
    ............... The Punisher Skull Logo -
    ........... [​IMG] [​IMG]
    ....................... Sign of a growing Sickness
    ..................... Increasingly used by LEO's

    This should disturb anyone with a Solid Moral Compass that
    Tells the direction in which this Society seems to be Heading

    ? This is The Mind Set we need Protecting & Serving us ?
    A Logo Graphically Illustrating an overt celebration of dealing out Death !
    An UpFront Lionizing of the Psychotic Vigilante by our boys in Blue!
    .
    [​IMG]

    Well NEWS to Yah ! - I hope this guy is going to Sue Yer Ass off :)
    'The Punisher' Co-creator Is Trying To Take His
    ..Character's Skull Logo Back, He Says It’s Been

    .......................................................... 'Co-opted' By a Gang of Goons
    https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/punisher-co-creator-take-back-logo-co-opted-police


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    You should probably wait for an investigation and for all of the facts to come out before you start foaming at the mouth and pulling your hair out. I mean, what happened in one place, one time and far away, is not everywhere forever. Nomsay?
     
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    Jesus, can you really not spell? Why have you got it in for these poor officers? Calling these heroes 'scum'? WHY? What is wrong with you? The mother asked for help because her son was violent and out of control and needed force to be constrained, that's why she called the police. Reading what she said don't you just want to slap her?

    "Oh, he's just a little kid, he's a baby!".

    "Then why did you have to call the police to subdue him?"

    "UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH?"

    You don't know the situation, whether 2 officers were enough or not. Yes, legitimate to be shot, if this maniac presented an immediate threat to life, absolutely. You could easily have killed that guy you attacked (how did you know he was a Nazi exactly?) and it wouldn't have been self defence, you attacked him? You should go to prison. You said you were trying to protect this other kid? As the officers were trying to subdue this out of control kid?

    You can't calm the boy down, if you could do that you wouldn't need police officers? Why don't you WAIT until we have the facts before condemning these poor cops and not being so ungrateful and hypocritical?
     
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    We don't know the details yet, why don't we see?
     
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    The police today are no different to what they used to be, in the 20s every federal agent was given a 45, Tommy gun and 2 grenades as standard. Just the police today have to deal with more extreme problems, much like this kid who would have been locked up in an asylum a few decades ago. But I fail to see how any of this is relevant to this incident, Ponch and Jon would have reacted in exactly the same way.
     
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    Frank Castle is righteous, he protects the innocent and punishes the bad guys, what every cop wants to do?
     
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    Lighting things in fire, beating up innocent people, wandering around freeways is a pretty funny way of calling yourself a "freedom fighter", but I already see where you're going with this. Your poor attempt to vilify and entire group of poorly paid, selfless, constantly abused civil service members reads like a manifesto from someone angry for getting caught committing crimes and lashing out from a jail cell. Worse yet, you fail to understand the use of current technology as saving people on both sides of this equation.
     
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    You ! CANNOT ! 'protect the innocent' by personally taking on the role of Judge,
    J
    ury & Executioner
    . & if "Frank Castle" is your chosen role model, I would suggest
    YOUR grasp of Law Enforcement in a Civilized Nation is both CORRUPT & Perverted.
    ................................................................................................................................................................................. & Dangerous

    But thanks for the Clarification ! - For this really reaches in to the Nub of the problem.

    F
    or what YOU are telling me here is THIS :
    < every cop wants to "Act Above the Law" & thus act the Criminal >

    A
    nd as YOU speak as a LEO, & YOU claim that this be the Mind Set of every
    Cop. I take NOTE of YOU Nakedly EXPOSING the problem like that


    And with the Psychopathic Maniac "Frank Castle" as a self-righteous
    role model for the LEO, I would suppose YOU people find it quite easy to
    Justify just about any Bullying Criminality YOU may choose to commit.
    Any spiteful vengeful act can & does become a Justified Punishment in the
    Twisted Mind of the Pig who sees retribution as his personal mission.

    Christ Almighty Man ! - Even the guy who created the antihero Character is
    aware of the Insane Homicidal Maniac that "Frank Castle"is. WHY does this
    realization escape YOU as a Police Officer.?

    How can YOU be so Bloody IGNORANT of the Pillars & Cornerstones
    upon which this Society is supposedly based upon? "The Rule Of Law"

    The founding Pillars & Cornerstones which our Fathers Bled & Died
    to firmly establish. Pillars & Cornerstones which YOU kick down into the
    dirt, in YOUR attempt to usurp a Fundamental Principal in order to give
    a Pig the right to "Punish the bad guy." - just like Frankie does

    For YOUR info:
    Never within any Civilized Society has the dispensing of Punishment
    ever been within the Legal purview and responsibility of a Police Officer.

    Punishment is dispensed or deferred only after "Due Process" has been
    achieved and the guilt or innocence of the case has been rightfully established
    by a Jury of peers, and a Judge's final drop of the gavel.

    And though our Justice System is admittedly flawed and imperfect, it is many
    times better than turning Justice over to "Frank Castle," or to the Brainwashed
    uniformed THUGs who choose to use him as their role model.

    & Further:
    It is impossible to receive "Due Process" from some Goon Pig Criminal
    with a Badge & Gun who takes it upon himself to deal out his street justice
    Punishments -aka- " a Frank Castle" type Revenge as he sees fit.

    And It is impossible to "protect the innocent" without "Due Process"

    I find your take upon this issue, as a Police Officer very disturbing, but
    NOT at all surprising, given the almost daily reports of Blue Line Abuse

    NO BLOODY WONDER PEOPLE ARE TAKING TO THE STREETS !
    THEY SEE THE UNFOLDING OF AN UGLY POLICE STATE TYRANNY
    AND DESPERATE PROTEST BECOMES A SURVIVAL TECHNIQUE


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    The cops are all wearing video cameras, not sure what else a reasonable person could ask for. Certainly not that knife-wielding maniacs shouldn't be shot.
     
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    Return....
    Jesus, what is wrong with you and can't you spell?

    2 Armed Cops against 1 unarmed 13 year old boy with autism ... and the Cops have only 1 solution to shoot?

    You mill around like a troll to defend this sum in police uniform ... what is wrong with you to do so? Again: 2 Cops armed with guns vs. 1 unarmed kid and the kid is shot! And you defend this shameful incompetence like mad!

    And again ignoring what I wrote about this Nazi Scum. I am a Cop, eh? No...! Did I shoot on this Nazi scum or use any weapon? No...! I overwhelmed them without weapon use and without being a Cop ... so tell me why these 2 Cops here were not able to do with the boy with all their training, eh?

    Damn it ... slowly it is only rediculous with your behavior to defend these 2 idiots in Uniform who pollute the Police Uniform!
    A mother having a problem to get her mental sick son under control is not allowed to call 911 and to ask for an intervene measure is told ... what the f*** is wrong with persons to tell such bullshit! For what is 911 again, eh?
    And what comes? 2 idiots in uniform who can only use a gun and nothing else!

    And btw ... you were also not there ... but you defend them as you were! I in turn point to the simple fact that it was 2 armed cops against an unarmed boy with autism and these two cops can only shoot, but are apparently too stupid and incapable of everything else in their job as a police officer!
     
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    Once again ...

    A mother calls 911 because her 13 year old son with autism has had a severe attack and asks for help with an intervention team.
    There are 2 cops coming and these 2 cops are not able to get the unarmed boy under control / overpower him other than to draw their guns and shoot him!
    Regardless of whether the boy grabbed a kitchen knife somewhere or tried to grab one of the policeman's guns or simply marked the berserk and attacked them ... if two cops are only able to use the gun as a solution in such a situation, then they are no more than incompetent and trigger-happy idiots and a shame for the uniform they wear!

    And when I read this total bullshit about the fact that the woman is not allowed to call 911 and / or expect something else when she does that, then I get really frothed at the mouth because of so much stupidity, arrogance and idiocy.
     
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    Ehm ... it was told here in this thread that this could have happened as reason that the police officers shot on the boy... Now OK?
     
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    Bullshit!
    Why did 911 call center send police instead intervene unit as requested, eh?
    So someone getting mad because another idiot did sone drugs in his drink is no reason to call 911 for you?

    Man ... eleminate 911 or mark them only to be valid for police action - prefered to trigger happy police actions - and then it is what you are telling here. This was a medical emergency which could not be handled by the mother anymore and 2 Cops are not able to overwhelm the boy otherway as to shot on him ... so that then medical emergency service can help here, eh?
     
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