Sandy Hook- It's the guns fault, it's always the guns fault.

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  1. BobbyJoe

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    Did I say otherwise?
     
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    Okay, so as I said, I'm in the Militia, as is everyone.

    Did you miss my post?

    All laws regarding all weapons/arms are unconstitutional.

    It's my right to go buy a bunch of AR15s, load them up, and hand them out to any crazy homeless person I see so they can defend themselves or use for whatever sort of gun play they might enjoy. They, too, are in the well regulated militia.

    Right?
     
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    You don't get it do you. Militia in this context means exactly what I wrote above. With Chinese soldiers raiding houses on your block and our Military not able to support you at that precise moment, what will you be then? You will become exactly what I said. A member of the Non-Regular Militia. It is just that simple. Else, you had better be ready to eat Peking Duck, for the rest of your natural born life with tons of MSG on-board that Duck. Got it. It's not hard. Stop trying to make it harder than it is.

    And, no. You cannot have an M1 Tank, or an F-22 Raptor to keep in your backyard. However, if the Chinese come visit your block and our Regular Military has abandoned a functional M1 around the corner that you know about AND you know how to operate it AND it is still armed THEN what will you do? Knowing full well that you are capable of operating that M1, that it is armed and available to you, will you allow your family to be wasted by Chinese Soldiers just a mere 5 blocks away from your house?

    What do you do? Do you run like hell for that tank? I sure as hell would - especially knowing that I was M1 trained and checked out and knowing that it had remaining stores. There could be a million different reasons why that tank ended up in your neighborhood empty, open and available. The question is, are you going to wait for our Regular Military to come back and recover it. Or, do you fight with it? Make a decision. They are only 5 blocks away on foot.

    That's what Militia means. It means, YOU. Remember this guy:

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    Well, "Militia" basically means the same thing when your Regular Military can't be there to defend you, or when your BIG Government goes rogue against you. You had better be prepared to fight in either case. You don't know for sure which one 'cometh' in the morning.

    The Founders provided a means by which you can defend yourself, your family and preserve the Republic. YOU are the Republic. YOU are America. Without YOU, there is no Country, no Nation and nothing worth preserving. YOU embody all of it. Now, start acting like it. Start acting like you understand what it means to be an American. This is YOUR land. This is YOUR Republic. Somehow, you have either forgotten this or you never knew it, or took it to heart.

    BE an American. Preserve the Republic. That's your Role. It is not your duty to support any government that seeks to subordinate The People. In doing so, that government subordinates the Republic and YOU should have no part in that.

    Never place ANYTHING higher than The People. That's what the Founders were trying to say. Got it? Good.
     
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    It's silly to argue that weapons can't be regulated. We don't allow people to walk around with weaponized anthrax. We don't let people put nukes in their yard. There is a line. That cannot be argued. The only argument is where that line will be drawn.
     
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    Why should the concept of living documents apply to constitutions but not contracts or laws?
     
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    No. It's not your right to have any and all weapons that are created.
     
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    I doubt a bunch of homeless people have the discipline to be in a well regulated militia. But, yes, they have the right to defend themselves as well. I don’t see a problem with it. Unless you are discriminating against the less fortunate? Not everyone who is homeless is mentally unstable. Who are we to judge?
     
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    Yes, it should be your right.


    Yes, an unloaded firearm is an expensive paperweight.


    Yes, that should be your right as well.


    Yes, as would be your right as well.


    Yes, the homeless also have the right to keep and bear arms, too. They are no less worthy of self defense as you are. If they are "crazy," then they need somewhere to go off the streets, so that you don't target them for distribution.

    This is an assumption without prefacing any facts to support the claim that they would engage in "whatever sort of gun play they might enjoy." When someone who has a home to live in goes out and buys a new sports car and then heads out to a midnight sideshow where they engage in "whatever sort of crazy sideshow driving they might enjoy" and ends up killing a bystander, would that sane sports car owner be liable for any injury or damages they caused that night while doing something dumb?


    Chinese roll down your block. Homeland invasion is on. Our Regular Military is preoccupied elsewhere. You and your family are left alone. You take a hit high in the thigh. You are out of action. Last week before the invasion, you handed an AR to a "crazy homeless person" not too far from your house. He witnesses the attack on your home and your family.

    Now, what do you want that crazy azz homeless person to do for you? I'm not going to answer the question this time for you, because you KNOW the answer already, don't you. You know exactly what you want that crazy homeless person to do for you and your family.

    In a time of serious conflict, your best ally could end up being the guy you counted on the least, or the one you thought was incapable of providing you support. You WILL need support. The Chinese are approaching your driveway, your leg is bleeding out and your Wife and Children need help. What do you wish the crazy nutcase homeless guy to do? Do you want him to remember how you gave him support in his time of need?

    You had better think twice before answering. Not so easy to slam that crazy azz homeless guy now, is it? Do you care about "Shall Not Infringe" under these circumstances when your Family is at stake? Not so quick to abandon what the Founders provided for you now, huh?


    Right. Exactly. Now you see the light of day when your family NEEDS that crazy azz homeless person you handed an AR too, don't you?
     
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    It is about Personal Responsibility. It is not about the Gun. Period. Liberals want to deny that fact and make it about Gun Control to the point of eradicating all firearms, even from law abiding individuals.
     
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    The Declaration of Independence says we have certain inalienable rights including LIFE LIBERTY and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS yet you right wingers and your love of guns denies this to thousands every year.One of the documents of our forefathers is a LIE???
     
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    So every single law in regard to any sort of weapon is unconstitutional. (How come the NRA only cares about guns? Seems like they are really dropping the ball there.)

    Bombs and grenades and nun chucks for everyone.

    We all need as many weapons as we can get of every grade.

    We are the well regulated Militia.
     
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    I'm pretty sure there are conservatives/Republicans who also support various forms of control in regard to arms and weapons (those unconstitutional bastards won't let us in the Militia have Napalm or landmines).
     
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    Are you sure the right wingers are doing it. About half the gun related deaths are performed by blacks and blacks vote predominately democratic and about half the whites vote democratic. It would appear that most gun related deaths are performed by democrats.
     
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    If true, Dems are just defending their freedoms and exercising their Constitutional rights!

    What Dems need are not just AR-15s but brass knuckles and nuclear weapons to feel remotely safe from those who target them.
     
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    All those blacks in Chicago are defending their rights?
     
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    How many more people must die because of the availability of guns that can kill dozens in minutes.? Why do we need them?
     
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    Actually lefties aren’t the ones defending mass shooters .it seems these guns make gun nuts happy
     
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    The part where you **** up the interpretation. Well regulated in 1800 meant In “Working condition, rendered operable”. That’s straight from an 1810 Oxford dictionary. the subject of the 2nd amendment is “the people” the verb is “shall”. “A well regulated militia,....” is a present participle
     
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    Yeah they made the bill of rights, a list of individual protections, 9 of which there is no controversy on whether they protect an individual and the second one they made for the state? Come on you make no sense
     
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    Why do you get decide what is needed for another individual. Guess what you don’t get to. Support free choice and freedom or admit your a fascist
     
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    So you want no laws that deny freedom in any way.....or you are a fascist. Correct?
     
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    I want Pieces of S that want to restrict a constitutional right to f right off. Is that concise enough for you to the point at hand?
     
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    Our militia is not in good working order.

    It is a mess
     
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    So you want fascism then. Ok
     
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    Don’t put words in people’s mouths. It just makes you like stupid
     
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