Scant Evidence That Clinton Had Malicious Intent

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  1. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes.. John Deutch was charged and was prepared to plead guilty. Bubba Clinton pardoned him. In the case of David Petraeus and Paula Broadwell. Major Broadwell was already cleared for classified and secret materials. However, not to the level thought by former CIA director Petraeus. That and the affair cost them both dearly.
     
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    Pardoned but not charged


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    John M. Deutch
    For the Canadian economist, see John James Deutsch.
    John Deutch
    John Deutch, Undersecretary of Defense, 1993 official photo.JPEG
    17th Director of Central Intelligence
    In office
    May 10, 1995 – December 15, 1996
    President Bill Clinton
    Preceded by James Woolsey
    Succeeded by George Tenet
    United States Deputy Secretary of Defense
    In office
    March 11, 1994 – May 10, 1995
    President Bill Clinton
    Preceded by William J. Perry
    Succeeded by John P. White
    Personal details
    Born John Mark Deutch
    July 27, 1938 (age 77)
    Brussels, Belgium
    Political party Democratic
    Spouse(s) Patricia Lyon Deutch
    Alma mater Amherst College (B.A.)
    Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Ph.D.)
    Religion Judaism
    John Mark Deutch (born July 27, 1938) is an American physical chemist and civil servant. He was the United States Deputy Secretary of Defense from 1994 to 1995 and Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) from May 10, 1995 until December 15, 1996.[1] He is an Institute Professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and serves on the Board of Directors of Citigroup, Cummins, Raytheon, and Schlumberger Ltd. Deutch is also a member of the Trilateral Commission.[2]

    Background

    CIA career Edit

    In 1995, President Bill Clinton appointed him Director of Central Intelligence (cabinet rank in the Clinton administration). However, Deutch was initially reluctant to accept the appointment. As head of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Deutch continued the policy of his predecessor R. James Woolsey to declassify records pertaining to U.S. covert operations during the Cold War.[4]

    Deutch fell out of favor with the Clinton administration because of public testimony he gave to Congress on Iraq. Specifically Deutch testified that Saddam Hussein was stronger than he was four years ago and the CIA might never be able to remedy the issue. Clinton dismissed Deutch after he had won re-election.[5][6]

    Deutch left the CIA on December 15, 1996[1] and soon after it was revealed that several of his laptop computers contained classified materials designated as unclassified.[clarification needed] In January 1997, the CIA began a formal security investigation of the matter. Senior management at CIA declined to fully pursue the security breach. Over two years after his departure, the matter was referred to the Department of Justice, where Attorney General Janet Reno declined prosecution. She did, however, recommend an investigation to determine whether Deutch should retain his security clearance.[7] President Clinton pardoned Deutch on his last day in office.[8]
     
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    Behind the surprise decision of the Justice Department to press criminal charges against former CIA chief John M. Deutch for having allegedly mishandled and compromised highly-classified documents while serving as the nation's top spymaster, there is an "all-out" White House effort to cover up a series of grave national-security scandals involving an alien secret service.
    Special Counsel Paul E. Coffey, the prosecutor in charge of the Deutch case, is said to have sent Attorney General Janet Reno a preliminary summary of his findings late last month, recommending indictment of the former director.
    Coffey charged Deutch had transferred highly sensitive government files to his unprotected home computer, a serious security violation.
    But those charges, which are unlikely to warrant a prison term, are merely the "fig-leaf" intended to hide from public view what federal investigators discovered when they raided the private computers in Deutch's suburban Washington home.
    Investigators uncovered evidence of covert interference by the Mossad, Israel's secret service, in the U.S. domestic political process and national-security.
    "The hundreds of classified files investigators discovered in the course of a security check on the computers kept in the Deutch home -- the "compromised" government documents that led to his recent indictment -- indicate that Ben-Elissar used his position to manipulate key U.S. policy decisions".
    It appears that Bill Clinton didn't want a repeat of the Jonathan Pollard of 1987 happening within his administration.
     
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    There is about what Hillary's done.
     
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    Wow so Bernie would be up by like 20 by now I guess lol
     
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    "Intent" is never mentioned in the law.

    "Gross negligence" is the standard under this law. Comey said Clinton acted with "extreme carelessness", which is identical to "gross negligence" under the law.

    There should have been an indictment. This is corruption at the highest level of government. Hillary is a criminal and her presidency will have no legitimacy.
     
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    Clinton handed out thumb drives with classified information in them to persons who were not authorized. She lost thumbrives with classified information in them. She turned over servers with classifieds information in them and allowed persons without clearance access to them and the information. Clinton place classifieds information on a server without even basic security like basic encryption.

    Andnkw we know the trial attorneys and career investigators are up in arms she nke ang of her cronies were not chareged with a crime



    His GF did not have clearance when he was sharing our nations secrets with her.

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    Was Deutch charged?[/QUOTE]
     
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    The law states that gross negligence in protecting classified information is a crime. Malicious intent is not necessary for it to be a crime.
     
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    Difference is patreus knew the info was classified, none of clintons were properly marked as classified.
     
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    Clinton knew there was classified information and they tried to get it reclassified and wiped off her server.
    The difference is Patraeus's biographer had a security clearance just not a need to know.
    Differencence is Patreous did not post classifiedninformation in a wide open server where it could be hacked.
    Difference is Patreous was held accountable Clinton gets a free ride.
     
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    Because they had no proof that she knew any of it was classified. You can keep beating the dead horse but the facts don't change.
     
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    / thread.

    OP Loser is just an ignorant troll. He thinks using large and bold print makes his statements have merit. None ever do. Got his assertions stomped in yet another thread. She broke serious laws. Geez.
     
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    Your a troll too stop talking. How on gods green earth does a SECRETARY OF STATE have any excuse to not know what's classified? They trained her on the protocols and she flipped them the finger. Period.
     
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    None of her emails were marked according to protocol
     
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    And those headers with the big C (for classified)in them?
    The ones that Clinton actually claimed she thought were somehow linked to the alphabet? Come on! :roll:
     
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    She knew top secret e-mails would be sent to her and she ran everything on an unsecured server. That's gross negligence right there. Crime committed. End of story.

    Intent does not matter. A stamp (or lack of a stamp) on the documents does not matter.

    Democrats are so dense.
     
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    She did not know top secret e-mails would be sent to her. You're making stuff up. Lol.
     
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    The Secretary of State didn't know top secret emails would be sent to her? How (*)(*)(*)(*)ing stupid is she?
     
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    The correct way to mark it is in the subject as well.
     
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    Clinton is such a stickler for government rules
     
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    Wrong again.

    As Secretary of State, she was the first point of contact. The raw e-mails came to her first. Most were mundane, some were top secret. After she read them, she sent them to be marked (unclassified, classified, top secret).

    Oh, she definitely knew she would receive top secret e-mails. Only a person with an IQ around 75 would not know.
     
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    That's not the point and you know it.
    Hillary trampled all over security laws and regulations by transmitting classified material on her non secure home made server.
    By the way, she has also forwarded classified documents to John Podesta by removing the classified designation. How can you defend this?

    How can you whine about the Russians hacking into our election process when Hillary had her email set up hacked and was deliberately evading
    security laws and regulations?
     
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    Well you'll have the next 4 years to complain about it while trying to find a competent candidate to make that an issue in 2020. If it helps I think she's probably a one term president if the GOP can recover from Trump.
     
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    You might be right. Then again, possibly not.
    And the time to raise that issue is now, because once Hillary is in office (God forbid!) all of her crimes will be buried and long forgotten by the decadent and corrupt media and the complicit Justice Department.
    She is more crooked than Stevie Wonder's handwriting.
     
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    No one should be sending top secret emails outside of the secured channels. So no, she didn't think any of the emails sent to her would be "top secret". You guys are still this misinformed after all this time? Lmao, even if she used the .gov email you guys are crying about it is not meant for top secret emails.

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    No one is supposed to send top secret information through unsecured channels. Everyone knew that, which is why she didn't receive any marked documents that were classified. You guys really should be smarter than this. It's been over a year with this information out there, lol.
     
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