Schiff crushes false assertions from GOPer's in letter to colleagues.

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  1. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Purely political. I could see it happening in a second term. She clearly broke the law in monster ways.
     
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    Ah, so sever mental gymnastics and detachment from reality then. Got it.
     
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    LOL, the highlighted part is all you hear from the dem media. Schiff for brains came out and said is was worse than they thought which of course is why he is holding secret meetings so he can lie to the useful idiots. Here is what he actually said.

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    Or maybe you are just gullible. See post above.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Either that or she’s just a 75 year old broad in a pants suit that you guys hate more than life itself Sean and Rush have really done their job well.
     
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    Wow! Lots of crimes there. Any idea why she's not in jail?
     
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    From what I understand, it's because the subpoena allowed her to choose what it covered. She had her yoga class schedules mixed in with official state department files. Her yoga classes were not covered by the subpoena, so she basically got to choose what to turn over.

    So that's not a crime, except that maybe Gowdy isn't all that great of a lawyer to begin with. He didn't ask to see the devices, but rather the official documents that were on them.
     
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    So do I.. remember the extraordinarily honorable judge Kavanaugh?
    You demoncrats smeared him up one side and down the other..
    So your extreme hypocrisy is duly noted.
     
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    It's nice cherry picking, but he came out afterwards and clarified that he did not mean it that way.

    What Mulvaney really said was, Trump had initially withheld funding from Ukraine for many reasons like:

    • Europe was not providing enough funding for military aid.
    • Suspicion of past corruption in Ukraine — which included Ukraine’s possible role in interfering in the 2016 presidential election
    • Possible possession of a Democratic National Committee server
    Other quotes from Mulvaney:

    “The money held up had absolutely nothing to do with Biden.”

    "Go look at what [U.S. Ambassador to the European Union] Gordon Sondland said today in his testimony — was that, I think, in his opening statement — he said something along the lines of, they were trying to get the “deliverable,” and the deliverable was a statement by the Ukraine about how they were going to deal with corruption. Okay? Go read his testimony, if you haven’t already. And what he says, and he’s right, that’s absolutely ordinary course of business. This is what you do. When you have someone come to the White House — when you either arrange a visit for the president, you have a phone call with the president — a lot of times we use that as the opportunity to get them to make a statement of their policy, or to announce something that they are going to do. It’s one of the reasons you can sort of announce that on the phone call or at the meeting. This is the ordinary course of foreign policy."


    These ongoing misrepresentations by the Leftists is harmful to the nation. The Democrats/MSM lies and cherry picking is atrocious. Then we have the "Useful Idiot" brigade taking these lies and repeating them repeatedly. Let's just hope the Independents don't fall for their ongoing lies. This was a 30+ minute press conference. Leftists and the MSM tried to only focus on 10 seconds. They ignored previous, repeated statements that 100% shoot down this narrative. They also ignore his later clarification. This is intellectually dishonest.
     
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    At least you agree they are significant crimes. Why do you think she is not in prison?
     
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    This is the one thing I worry about. I can't even discuss things with the left now because there's just so much nonsense thrown out there. I know they get a lot of it from their media sources, and the right is guilty of this, as well. It's just... hell, in another thread somebody actually thinks Trump is going to prison over this. Even if it was true and he was using this financial aid to get dirt on Biden, there's no crime. If there was actually a crime, he still wouldn't be convicted of anything. The most that could happen is that 2/3 of a republican controlled senate would vote to impeach him because he dared to use his position to push for an investigation on Biden.

    Despite having 0% chance of this resulting in an impeachment from the senate, there are actually lefties who think he's going to be impeached and sent to prison!

    I don't know if it's just intellectual dishonesty, or full blown brainwashing that's going on.
     
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    If it wasn't so serious this thread would be hilarious. Time after time, no matter how many times the process of impeachment is
    patiently explained to them, the Trump supporters come back with the same tired accusations that shows how ignorant of the
    process they are.

    Are they just too lazy to google the facts that they question and ignore? If so, I'll be glad to source any that they doubt.

    just include the post number and show the quote.
     
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    The MSM went full Orwell. We should have taken notice when they failed to apologize, or even acknowledge that "Trump Russia Collusion" was a DNC / Clinton created lie. Once they quit being merchants of truth and simply reporting, a segment of the population vulnerable to brainwashing became locked in. Stalin would be proud. Mao would be proud. Kim would be proud.
     
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    Anyone that believes anything the liar Schiff says should have their head examined.
     
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    Trump’s DOJ must be the worst in history. All of these heinous crimes and no indictments. Either that or you guys are just blowing it out your asses again. She is not in prison because lard ass Barr and his FBI Director have no proof that she committed any crime. Too bad for you guys that Sean Hannity does not have his own secret police force and a jail in the basement of Fox News. She’s just an old broad that blew the election last time around to your crackpot scoundrel. Isn’t that good enough for you guys? You people really need to get over her. Let it go already.
     
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    I know enough to know that it requires a 2/3 majority vote in the senate for impeachment, and that the senate is controlled by the GOP. This means you have 0% chance of impeachment.
     
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    So why don't the Democrats take these "misleading talking points" away? Make them public there goes a big part of their argument and if Democrats think they got the goods it shouldn't matter anyway right?
     
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    I'm assuming being an American tax paying citizen should be sufficient skin right?
     
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    Probably a mixture of Hannity hyping her up and her own at least somewhat shady things she herself did
     
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    Not quite completed with the investigation yet. The more Barr and Durham investigate the more that is unfolding. This won't be collusion collusion collusion for two years. This will be rock solid Grand Jury indictments to many handed down overnight.

    Last May when Durham was announced as lead investigator into the Russian probe I predicted around Christmas time would be sufficient time for a verdict. However a request from Durham to want more investigators was leaked to the news 2 weeks ago and that's usually a sign of bigger and deeper things to come. We will see. Good things come to those who wait.
     
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    More parody from shifty
     
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    If the only evidence you have is what Schiff said you have no evidence. You have instead self serving bullshit.
    Yet it was granted both Clinton and Nixon in the house.
     
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    Well, that isn't really what happened. But even if it was, why would that have been a problem? We've learned from Trump congressional subpoenas are to be ignored.
     
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    Complete and utter bovine excrement!

    Your BLOTUS does NOT have the right to TAMPER with WITNESSES!

    Neither does he have the right to OBSTRUCT JUSTICE!

    What is happening is an INVESTIGATION regarding issues that are NEVER OPENLY DISCUSSED under any circumstances.

    Once the INVESTIGATION is COMPLETED your BLOTUS gets HIS TURN to face his accusers and call his own witnesses!

    That is why it is called DUE PROCESS...there is a PROCESS that needs to be FOLLOWED.

    Your BLOTUS does not get to make up his own rigged "process".
     
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    Which will occur AFTER the INVESTIGATION is COMPLETE!
     
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