Schiff crushes false assertions from GOPer's in letter to colleagues.

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  1. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You obviously watch different news. CNN, MSNBC etc. simply don't notice things like republican members not being allowed to participate in Schiff's games. I watch them occasionally just to see them playing dodgeball with the facts, and making up others. Fox does report these things. I'm not talking about commentary, but specific incidents, specific misrepresentations and manipulations. They have nailed Schiff cleanly dozens of times doing what you think he doesn't. Example- the whistleblower thing. We find out that Schiff was in contact with the guy in advance- which he had denied. The foul odor of colluding with someone to create a charge for you to be surprised and offended by is hard to ignore. Do you think Hillary was an example of truth and honor too?

    One of the worst things that can happen to a country is when it's own news no longer sticks to facts and starts shaping political opinions by distorting things. Lots of that going on today- and sadly, a lot of good people buying into it.

    I'm not saying either side is perfect or innocent. Politicians never will be, but journalists used to be at least honest and knew the difference between news and editorial commentary. There aren't many of those around these days.
     
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  2. btthegreat

    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    Show your work. when were they not in attendance, when they were not provided an opening statement or to ask questions of the witnesses or show me a statement from a republican complaining of same.
     
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  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you are insinuating Repubs on the relevant committees have been blocked in any way from participating in the questioning of the witnesses being deposed............prove it.
    When you can't, I'll chalk it up as another baseless accusation directed at Schiff, CNN, MSNBC, etc., from a Trump acolyte who never substantiates his claims.
     
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  4. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you even aware that there are news networks that don't carry the same hate you harbor? Obviously not.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Crushes assertions with lies that is.
     
  6. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Moving the goalposts AGAIN?

    You have consistently FAILED to prove that Schiff lied and I have no doubt that you will continue to fail to prove that he did.
     
  7. struth

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    Huh? Read what he said and the transcript. He lied about them. Geez...
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Why don't you link the parody transcript and QUOTE the alleged "lies"?
     
  9. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you even aware that I called you out for making baseless claims, asked you to prove them, and you came up with :blahblah::blahblah::blahblah:.
     
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    Everything he said was a lie....nothing was contained in the actual transcript
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Once again you flush away the tattered remnants of your credibility by FAILING to substantiate your utterly BOGUS allegations.

    Sad!
     
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    At this point it's painfully clear, you don't even know what the conversation is about.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/schiff-parody
     
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    Isn’t it? The entire “impeachment inquiry” is based on a lie, just like the Russian collusion hoax. It’s sad the den party has nothing but lies
     
  15. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But baseless claims is your specialty. I've never- NEVER seen you make anything but a one-sided argument with distortion as fact, while ignoring anything that would tell a rational person it wasn't so. Tht's what you do. That's the basis you want to argue on . You and Schiff would make a team; you could provide his cover stories.
     
  16. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Wow, you inadvertently said something that was right for a change although what you meant was wrong.

    Yes, the impeachment inquiry is based upon your BLOTUS's endless LIES, DECEPTION, CONNIVING, OBSTRUCTION and VIOLATIONS of the Law of the Land.
     
  17. struth

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    But then why is your dear leader Shifty lying? If what you said was true he wouldn’t have to lie
     
  18. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Schiff is NOT lying!

    You have consistently FAILED to prove that anything he has said is a lie. His PARODY was NOT a lies because it was a PARODY and your own DEFINITIONS of the TERMS established that he was NOT lying.
     
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    Um yeah he did. What part of his statement was actually in the transcript? Here’s a hint none of it

    What part was parody? What part was suppose to be for comedy?
     
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    Hissyfit footstomping does not alter factual reality.

    Schiff did not lie and you have not proven that he did!

    End of story!
     
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    What factual reality was in Shifty’s lie? Hint nothing.

    Proven? Haha read his comment, and read the transcript. The transcript is the fact, Shifty totally lied about the content of it
     
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    Onus is entirely ON YOU to PROVE that he lied!

    You CAN'T provide anything at all!

    Sad!
     
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    Geez....I can't make you read....there is his statement, then the transcript. One is what happened, the other a lie about it. Shifty lied...he's a liar

    It's not the first time he lied about this matter....he also lied about the fact that he actually had contact with the alleged "WB" - he was in direct contact, https://www.foxnews.com/media/washi...cchios-for-false-comments-about-whistleblower

    Moreover he is now hiding documents from Committee members and not allowing them access to evidence.

    It's obvious this entire thing is a hoax at this point
     
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  24. Derideo_Te

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    :roflol:

    Rupert Murdoch TABLOID all you have?

    The FACT that the whistleblower approached a Congressional STAFF MEMBER in order to obtain guidance on drafting his filing does NOT amount to a crime.

    Schiff was NOT lying when he said that he did not know the whistleblower.

    That he was aware of the whistleblower is NORMAL for ANYONE in that position because IT IS HIS JOB to know things like that.

    Nice try but STILL a strike out.

    That your sources are extremely BIASED and DISINGENUOUS says volumes and explains why you are this misinformed.

    Furthermore NOTHING substantiates your allegation about "hiding documents" but if you got that crap from the same sources the odds are they are lying to YOU!
     
  25. struth

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    No, if you click the link to the story, there are toehr links in it...to other sources.

    The WB was a former staff of his, they colluded on the obviously false complaint, that the actual transcript destroys..

    He was lying, as the reports highlight...that's all Shifty has is lies, and he knows his gullible low informed base will eat it up. Since has repeatedly been caught, he has decided to go the secret Star Chamber routine, and keep evidence of Committee members.
     

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