Schiff - "Trump Might Offer Russia To Alaska"

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  1. Spim

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    I'll check into that over the weekend. Ty
     
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    That always seems to be the case with him.
     
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    That's a constant problem with Trey Gowdy, he's always "fixin' to sumthin' spectacular" but never seems to anything effective to hold these sonofabitches to account.

    Rep. Gaetz:

    Matt Gaetz: Devin Nunes is a patriot. And I’m glad you went through Trey Gowdy’s exquisite questions in 2017 to these corrupt officials. I guess my questions Sean would be why was it then in late May in 2018 that Trey Gowdy went on Martha MacCallum’s show and said the FBI did exactly as all of our fellow Americans would have wanted them to do and that it had nothing to do with Donald Trump.

    Both of those things have now been proven to be untrue and it seems that Gowdy’s brilliant lawyering back in 2017 that we’re only able to see now proves those statements untrue. The number one question I get asked from Americans is why no one has gone to jail and is held accountable. Unfortunately, when Nunes and Meadows and Jordan and I wanted subpoena power it was Paul Ryan and Trey Gowdy that wouldn’t give us that subpoena power. Democrats sent out hundreds of subpoenas. When we had control and could have run this to ground in 2017 we didn’t send out a single subpoena. Not one. And that’s a failure of our Republican leadership.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ng-gop-subpoenas-deep-state-operatives-video/
     
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    I don't normally miss stories like this. Guess you can learn some things from the internet. Thx for the post. This is a mind blowing story if true.
     
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    Trey "Fixin' do sumthin' about all this here corruption!"
    When your "fixin to" you are "getting ready to get ready", in other words, so far, you haven't done squat.

    I confess to being more weary than dizzy from the Dr. Gowdy–and–Mr. Trey routine. The first of June, 2018, Gowdy, who chaired the House Oversight Committee, assured us that everything was peachy with the FBI — no way, no how did the bureau “spy” on the Trump campaign when it deployed an “informant” to pry information from Trump-campaign officials. As Mollie Hemingway pointed out at the time, Gowdy had not even seen relevant documents the FBI and Justice Department have been withholding from Congress — in fact, his spokeswoman said he did not even know what documents and records have been subpoenaed by the House Intelligence Committee (on which Gowdy also sat).

    Three weeks later, Gowdy did a 180: back on the warpath, slamming the politically biased Feebs over “prejudging” the outcomes of the Clinton-emails and Trump-Russia investigations and delivering a chest-beating vow that the House would “use its full arsenal of constitutional weapons to get compliance” with its subpoenas — a threat that includes holding recalcitrant FBI and DOJ officials in contempt.

    Oh boy, Trey's gonna really gonna git 'em now!

    The GOP House most certainly DID not use its “full arsenal of constitutional weapons” to pressure stonewalling agencies.
     
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    He always has a lot of excuses for not doing something effective, it would have been nice if he would have put all the effort he put into coming up with excuses, into oversight.

    Gowdy's committee did not issue the subpoena for more than six months after learning of Clinton’s use of private email.
     
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    How can he do anything in the minority though ?? All the hearings were done with the Democrats in control of the House.
     
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    Why wouldn't subpoena power be used ?? I've never heard this argument before ??
     
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    What about the cronies that looked the other way as Obama sent in the FBI to attack the Trump campaign? How do we know that cronyism isn't bipartisan?
     
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    Dershowitz shouldn't have used Crimea as an example, because then he's propagandizing. The people in Crimea are Russian, speak Russian, conduct business in Russian, go to school in Russia, and marry Russians. The Crimeans voted to unite with Russia as protection from Ukraine. They feared that if they were independent again, Ukraine would invade and take over the way they did in the 90's.

    If the situation with Alaska was similar to Crimea, which it isn't since the majority are Americans, then the ownership of Alaska might be questionable - not that Putin would want it. He said they have enough frozen land.

    Many of the illegals pay into the Social Security system, and yet receive no benefits. Well, Ray Stevens sees it differently:

     
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    Sure, if he completely failed to hold anyone to account while in the majority, why expect anything effective out of him while in the minority?

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    Could Trey Gowdy work up any effective outrage if the FBI spied on a mosque for the same reasons they spied on Trump's campaign?

    We have an fundamental protocol in this country that you do not, as the incumbent administration, use the awesome powers that you were given under counterintelligence law and even the criminal law to investigate and harass your political opposition.

    We have that standard and norm because we don’t want our law enforcement and intelligence enmeshed in our politics unnecessarily and we want our politics to proceed without the heavy hand of the incumbent administration being able to use that to political advantage, it’s common sense. Yet, Obama ran amuck, while we held Congress, then his holdovers ran amuck while we held all 3 branches of government and nobody did anything effective to hold them to account.

    You can't name one effective thing Trey Gowdy did to secure our Liberty against an Executive Branch that was completely out of control. Not one damn thing. Imagine the effort it took to consistently TALK the right game, to yell and rant about how you wuz fixin' to do this or that, and manage to do absolutely nothing effective for at least 6 years?

    We did our part. We worked doggedly, effectively and tirelessly to get all these Republicans Elected to get them into the majority, and they sure thought being in the majority was grand, but, not because they felt any duty to secure our Liberty. He increased his net worth by 2.5 times from the time of the Benghazi attack to now, so, success!

    Why do we settle for this level of skill and effort from those we elevate to national office?
     
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    You've nailed it @Zorro. Trey Gowdy is one of the biggest POS's in the country yet he has everyone fooled (well not everyone). He's nothing but a Paul Ryan clone....who is the biggest POS Rino in the country. Paul Ryan and Trey Gowdy absolutely ****ed us when they had control of Congress yet they let this coup **** fester because Gowdy had serious TDS and still does to some extent. Gowdy endorsed that little slimeball Marco Rubio...boy if that doesn't tell you how intelligent Mr. Alligator Mouth/Puppy Dog Ass Gowdy is, then I don't know what will. Gowdy is a fraud....who likely committed crimes rising to or near the level of treason.....he turned a blind eye when the silent fake coup was going on and he knew damn well the Russia Russia Russia deal was a hoax. I'd be willing to bet he was paid off by Hillary's side for not doing a damn thing about Benghazi too.
     
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    Specifically who was not subpoenaed by Gowdy?
     
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    What Administration official was ever effectively held accountable by Trey Gowdy or ANY committee that he chaired?
     
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    Paul Ryan is another traitorous sonfabitch that did nothing effective and then effectively threw the 2018 House elections on his way out the door. When Paul Ryan was returned to the majority by GOP voters, working their asses off in 2010, his net worth was $1.5M.

    He was worth $6M a year ago, and set up to run for the Presidency this year had Trump imploded as expected. So, his office holding has rewarded him handsomely, but, I don't see what he accomplished for us. Certainly he did nothing effective to hold a completely lawless Administration to account while they misused their power to spy on rival campaigns, the Clinton's ran a global influence pedaling scheme to sell the office of the presidency they all assumed she would soon hold, and then when she didn't, did absolutely nothing while the Executive Agencies attempted to drive the President from power.
     
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    What Obama administration official should have been effectively held accountable by Trey Gowdy?
     
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    He's the bad guy and fully representative of the current democratic party..
     
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    All of them
     
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    Well that’s a given but I’m still wondering what Trey Gowdy could have done differently. The R’s only had both House and Senate in the last 2 years of the Obama Presidency and as we are now seeing very clearly now the corruption and dishonesty in the Obama DOJ, FBI, and CIA were beyond comprehension to fair minded Americans.
     
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    IMO Ryan is a governance genius. Look at his original roadmap. His 3 phase plan (along with Sec Price) to replace ObamaCare was extremely well thought out. It was scuttled by the Freedom Caucus who in effect became the champions of ObamaCare by placing their “perfect” as the enemy of “good”. Ryan’s reality was the control of the Senate by the Democrats. Ryan volunteered to be the Speaker. He didn’t want the job. And now he is vilified for that decision.
     
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    Apparently none of them! Stuff just happens and while Trey gets very angry about it, that's it.
     
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    And they had the House, Senate and Presidency after Trump's election. Trey Gowdy did nothing effective to defend Trump while Obama's Leftovers nearly drove the GOP winner from the WH. Trey even defended the FBI!
     
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    That was his initial excuse.

    He took the Speakership AFTER the GOP controlled the Senate after the 2014 election. Then his excuse was that he couldn't really accomplish anything without all 3 branches. The GOP voters solved that in 2016. Now out of excuses, at least he largely shut up while he did absolutely nothing effective for the GOP until he announced his pending retirement months before the 2018 election, without resigning the Speakership so that we had a short timer Speaker, who did absolutely nothing to try to keep the GOP majority, and absolutely nothing while Obama's holdovers nearly overturned the 2016 election.

    Actually, what he did was position himself to run for the Presidency in 2020 after Trump was driven from office, unfortunately for our "hero" Paul Ryan, Trump wasn't driven from office.

    Yes, quite the "genius"!
     
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    He didn't have support from established Republicans
     
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    He (and no one else) had any idea of what was actually going on at the highest level of the FBI. I believe that what was said is that 99.9% of the FBI agents are highly ethical.
     

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