Schiff - "Trump Might Offer Russia To Alaska"

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  1. AFM

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    Which established Republicans ??
     
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    He was the architect of the tax reform which was passed using reconciliation which only lasts 10 years. And no, nothing can be accomplished without 60 Senate votes.

    Where did you come up with the plan for him to run for President in 2020.

    You aren’t getting all this from Tucker are you. I’m a fan of his but he really went off the deep end about Paul Ryan and John Bolton among others. His arguments are irrational.
     
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    Trump:
    I have to lie to make my day.
    You must believe in what I say.
    My funs are stupid – this is my game.

    Not everyone knows I'm insane,
    Convinced my base Dems to blame,
    For the pandemic and national debts
    My base believe me – they are my pets

    You don’t believe me, you think its odd
    But they are stupid, they think I’m God.
     
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    So somebody else's fault.

    Your defense concedes the premise, that Trey did NOTHING effective to hold the outlaw Obama regime to account while they turned their vast spying, investigative and counter-intelligence powers, THAT WE ENTRUST TO THEM, on their GOP political opponents.

    And after Trump won anyway, did NOTHING while the Lame Duck Administration and then the Administration Holdovers, worked diligently and tirelessly to overturn a GOP victory in the presidential election.

    Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz on Friday slammed what he called a "failure of our Republican leadership" in the Russia collusion investigation, also singling out former South Carolina Rep. Trey Gowdy for his claims that the F.B.I. behaved appropriately in its early investigations of the alleged plot.

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    Claimed FBI that repeatedly lied to the FISA Court in Order to Spy on GOP Political Opponents, "Acted Appropriately".​

    Appearing on the show shortly after Gowdy, Gaetz sarcastically referred to "Trey Gowdy's exquisite questions in 2017 to these corrupt officials."

    "Why was it then that in late May of 2018 that Trey Gowdy went on Martha MacCallum's show and said that the F.B.I. did exactly what all of our fellow Americans would have wanted them to do and it had nothing to do with Donald Trump?" Gaetz said.

    "Both of those things have now been proven to be not true and it seems that Gowdy's brilliant lawyering back in 2017 that we're only able to see now proves those two statements untrue," he added. ​

    Gaetz last night posted to his Twitter account the 2018 remarks to which he was referring, in which Gowdy claimed that the F.B.I. in the course of the investigation "did exactly what [Americans] would want them to do when they got the information they got, and that it has nothing to do with Donald Trump."

    Gaetz criticized Republican leadership for hamstringing G.O.P. efforts to supervise the investigation.

    "Unfortunately when [Rep. Devin] Nunes and [Rep. Mark] Meadows and [Rep. Jim] Jordan and I wanted subpoena power it was Paul Ryan and Trey Gowdy that wouldn't give us that subpoena power. Democrats sent out hundreds of subpoenas."​

    "When he had control and could have run this to ground in 2017, we didn't send out one single subpoena, not one," he said, calling that decision "a failure of our Republican leadership."​

    https://justthenews.com/accountabil...aetz-slams-trey-gowdy-over-2018-fisa-comments

    Trey Gowdy, forever fixin' to do something useful.
     
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    Yes he was. That was one bill in two years.

    Trump Was elected in Nov. When Trump took office in January they should have had legislation stacked up like planes on the runway.

    I'm sure he has excuses. Everyone has excuses.

    And while they were making excuses, an outlaw Presidency illegally spied on American Citizens, a GOP Presidential Campaign, GOP Presidential Transition Team and then their holdovers pulled out all the stops to try to overturn the GOP Presidential victory.

    All while Ryan and Gowdy did nothing. Nunes fought like hell, but was unable to get Ryan and Gowdy, according to Gaetz, to agree to a SINGLE subpoena. They were very nicely positioned for a Trump failure and the victory of the corrupt Deep State and the corrupt Intelligence Community. Gowdy made enough of a ruckus to put on a good show. Ryan didn't bother to even do that.
     
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    Maybe just maybe good men likr Trey Gowdy don't believe in pushing their agenda on a divided America.
     
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    Your excuse concedes the premise, that they did NOTHING effective to hold a SINGLE corrupt Administration official accountable during the worst political spy scandal in American History.

    They did NOTHING effective while an outlaw Administration spied on and attacked a GOP presidential team.

    They did NOTHING effective while outlaw Administration holdovers dilligently worked to drive a GOP President from office.

    We can't do squat with just the House, we need the Senate too!
    We deliver the Senate.​
    We can't do squat with just the House and Senate, we need the WH too!
    We deliver the WH​
    We can't do squat with just the House, the Senate and the WH, we need national unity too!

    Weird how the folks attacking the GOP don't need the Senate or the WH, but we need everything, plus "National Unity" to even defend ourselves.

    Why do we accept this from those we charge with representing us?
     
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    That's horseshit. Through the Clinton Email Whitewash and Trump Witchhunt with a blizzard of lies leaked from Administration officials, past and present, through 4 illegal FISA warrants, repeated frauds committed on the court, pretextual investigations and ambush interviews, the railroading of an innocent man who served in our nation's uniform, with valor, for 33 years. Evidence withheld and destroyed. Exculpatory evidence withheld for YEARS after it was demanded by the Court. Hard drives under subpoenas washed with bleachbit, and smartphones destroyed with hammers during an active investigation, not ONE FBI agent blew the whistle. Not one FBI agent went to the press. Not one FBI agent resigned.

    Not. One.

    Not a single one came forward. A completely corrupt FBI leadership and all these, 99.9%, according to you, remained pristine naive ignorant and valorous. You are essentially raising the idiot defense for them. They too placed their bets that the Corrupt Deep State and Intelligence Agencies would win and Trump would lose.

    If there is a SINGLE person of honor and integrity in the entire outfit, they have yet to show themselves.

    And the idea that their ruthless corruption was a secret is another pile of crap. Chuck Schumer warned Trump right around the time he was inaugurated that if he crossed the Intelligence Community that they "had six ways to Sunday to FIX you." So your theory that they are all pristine, ignorant, naive and valorous is falsified by the fact that their ruthlessness was a proverb and byword well understood by probably nearly everyone on DC, and has been for years.

    That was Schumer in Jan/2017.

    Here's Samantha Powers in March/2018:

    Samantha Power delivers ominous message to Trump: 'Not a good idea to piss off John Brennan'.

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    Samantha Power, who was U.S. ambassador to the United Nations under former President Barack Obama, warned President Trump on Saturday that it was "not a good idea to piss off John Brennan" after the former CIA director told him in a tweet that America would "triumph over you."

    No. The "Smart word" in DC was that if John Brennan illegally participates in an illegal coordinate scheme to spy on you and then drive you from office, the President is supposed to respond to Comey/Brennan/Crapper with "Thank you sir, may I have another!"

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...rump-not-a-good-idea-to-piss-off-john-brennan

    So, while I appreciate you sharing your point of view, the theory that they all KNEW and ACCEPTED this, the Left AND THE RIGHT, better fits the facts as we know them today.
     
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    Nunez is not blaming Gowdy and Ryan. What is Gaetz’s rationale for blaming Ryan and Gowdy ??? If anyone is to blame it is Sessions who recused himself for no reason because it was initially an intelligence investigation and not a criminal investigation.
     
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    ThT was all the corrupt FBI leadership.
     
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    I hate the one to break the news but the GOP is going to lose the whole banana, stand presidency and congress and many state and local races. It was a sad day for the Grand Old Party when they put all their chips down on an incompetent moron.
     
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    So the choice is between incompetence and pure evil.
    Incompetence is vastly superior every time.
     
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    And that's another point of ridiculousness. Because it was a counter-intelligence investigation, there was no basis for Session's recusal.
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    Another Republican Who Quailed Before The Corrupt Deep State
    Sessions says that he recused himself because he thought this was required by the federal regulation controlling “Disqualification arising from personal or political relationship” (28 CFR Sec. 45.2) but under the regulation, recusal was unnecessary.

    Section 45.2 states that an official is disqualified from “a criminal investigation or prosecution” if he has a personal or political relationship with a “subject of the investigation or prosecution,” or with a person or organization whose interests would be affected by the outcome “of the investigation or prosecution.”

    The probe of Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential campaign at the time of his recusal was not a criminal investigation or prosecution. Moreover, when the reg speaks of the “subject of the investigation or prosecution,” it is using “subject” as a criminal-law term of art. A “subject” is a person or entity whose actions are being examined by a grand jury with an eye toward a possible indictment. There are no “subjects” in that sense in a counterintelligence investigation because the objective is not to build a criminal case and there is no grand jury.
     
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    And yet, he whipped your asses!
     
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    Why is the title of this thread backwards?
     
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    Yes. And as we now have seen Rosenstein was knee deep in the corrupt DOJ and FBI leadership cesspool.
     
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    I think with Barr, we finally have a real AG.
     
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    Gowdy is a POS....his agenda was letting the silent coup run to finality.....because he's a worthless prick just like Paul Ryan....both have some serious TDS.

    Good ol open borders Paul Ryan. All that stood in the way of a complete border wall (by now) was Paul Ryan. He will go down as one of the most pathetic piles of garbage in U.S. history. He may as well be running the DNC right now....with his Democrat wife.
     
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    Called that years ago. Rosenstein was pulling the silent coup puppet strings for the former Obongo administration. Rosenstein should get no less than 20 years behind bars.
     
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    That’s ridiculous. Show where Ryan is open borders.

    Where does all this hatred of Paul Ryan come from ??? It’s irrational.
     
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    Are you blind??????? Honestly?

    When Trump was elected what was his number 1 promise....The Wall. When Trump was elected, who was Speaker of the House....Paul RINO. Paul RINO was speaker for 2 years and what got done? NOT A *******NED THING.

    Trump is the FIRST President in the Modern Era that had control of both Houses of Congress and actually wanted to fix ****. He wanted to drain the swamp. But Swamp Rat Ryan blocked him. Paul Ryan backed the coup attempt. Just like John McCain and all the other RINOS. While I mention that dead POS, who was it that blocked the repeal of Obongo Care? Oh yeah, that dead POS John McCain.

    Paul Ryan and Nancy Pelosi have the same stance on the border. Do I need to say anything more?

    I don't know where the hell you live but I have seen the invasion first hand since the '80s. Is the country better for it? Certainly not. It will be the downfall of this nation. I just laugh at the climate nutters talking about existential threats....I wonder will it matter to the United States of Mexico? Who really cares when the country has turned into a third world shithole?
     
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    The tax reform got done. And ObamaCare would have been repealed and replaced if it wasn't for the Freedom Caucus who torpedoed a well thought out plan consisting of part 1 which is all that could be done under reconciliation rules, part 2 which could be done with Sec Price's actions, and part 3 which would require bipartisan legislation.

    What coup did Paul Ryan attempt ??

    McCain did not block the repeal of ObamaCare. He voted against getting rid of the individual mandate. And it was spiteful of him to do that. It was the Freedom Caucus who blocked the repeal and replacement of ObamaCare.

    Ryan blocked Trump from draining the swamp ?? How did he do that ??

    Paul Ryan is an advocate of securing the southern border to prevent illegal immigration. His plan is documented in his 2014 book "The Way Forward", pages 197 - 203.

    All you have posted is a bunch of irrational nothing. No links or references.

    And BTW, nothing can be done without 60 votes in the Senate.
     
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    What if the person he shoots was clearly acting in a menacing manner and the Secret Service was not on their toes. The Secret Service has gotten lackadaisical before you know.
     
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    No, he won by a statistical fluke, using a system that a 5 year old could understand wouldn't work on occasion. When you have an election and the guy with 3 million FEWER votes wins most people would say we have a problem, even Donald Trump agreed with that once, when he was about to be on the losing side.

    And we are talking about the NEXT election, not the last one. You are all about to find out just how much the slogan "**** you, we won" is a mistake.
     
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