Seattle police confiscate weapons from right wing Neo-Nazi.

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  1. jay runner

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    I'm never going to Seattle. It ain't safe and gets more like San Franshetco continuously.
     
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    There is no such thing as a "right-wing neo-Nazi" . The commies in Russia called their fellow travelers in Nazi Germany "rightwing" because commies are about being in total power rather than some goofy-never-worked ideology.
     
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    so I guess they just got to big into idol so now they're just opposing Portland in general?
     
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    Well that's insulting! Just who do you consider far right? We Righties here on PF are called far rights ALL THE TIME!
     
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    Really? Is that how the Australian approached the Aboriginal problem and solutions down thru history :wierdface:
     
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    I have AT least 2000 rounds of assorted casing and components to recharge them.. NOT BECAUSE I'm a anarchist but because I demand accuracy and exact performance every shot!

    And I assure them they always go off when I pull the trigger ;)
     
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    That's an easy answer.

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    After reading this thread it appears to be a "Let the leftist call the rightist Nazi" thread. Must be some sort of stress reliever PF does from time to time to keep the opposite party from getting to overwrought :)
     
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    Such hypocrisy!!!!!!!!!! His house is stormed like Hitlers brown shirts, and his second amendment rights are violated.

    Yet every day abortion doctors KILL hundreds of babies and liberals with no morals at all think that is just fine.
     
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    Here is the real problem, according to me.

    Most mass killings have not been by people who are officially clinically insane. There are people who are diagnosed with schizophrenia, but they do not do the mass killings.

    However, people who go out and do mass killings, or undertake sudden, near-spontaneous killings, are clearly not normal. That's what people mean when they say, 'They must have been insane'. It IS insane behavior, just not 'officially so'.

    It's theoretically conceivable that a rational person could decide that mass killings are a valid way to advance his political or social or religious agenda. (Almost everyone agrees with this. Our difference with the mass murderers is that we sub-contract mass killing to our government.) But while it's theoretically conceivable, in practice, I believe we all assume that the private mass murderer has some screws loose somewhere.

    So ... "we" ... the people who are qualified to think about these things .. need to have a re-think, or just a think, about what we mean by the words 'rational' and 'sane'. We need a new category, with vocabulary to fit, for people who, while not fitting into current DSM V categories, are also not part of the great majority of mankind, when it comes to willingness to commit private mass murder. If you read the 'DSM V' Wiki article I linked to in the previous sentence, you'll find out that there is a controversy among professional about 'borderline personality disorder' or, as some would like to call it, 'emotional dysregulation disorder'.

    The problem is, there is probably a spectrum, not a hard break, between the peaceful majority, and the insane mass killers. Once we try to identify potential mass murderers, we will have the problem of sorting them out from people who look a lot like them -- people who are fond of conspiracy theories, who have short tempers, who don't like being contradicted in an argument, who like firearms -- but who are just harmless eccentrics.

    Nonetheless, I believe we ought to give some attention to this middle category. Surely there are academics studying the personal histories of all the mass killers? (I don't know much about this field in any detail -- if anyone reading this does, please comment.)

    I'm mindful of the fact that any legislation that might come out of such a set of studies, to identify potential mass-murderers, no matter how well-founded they might be, would be unlikely to get enacted. Suppose we were able to identify, to a high degree of certainty, the sort of person who is very likely to go down and shoot up a Black church, or a synagogue, or a gay nightclub; and suppose we then put some sort of restraint on them.

    There would be a united front of people from both Left and Right to oppose it. From the Left: "You're just ciminalizing so-called 'eccentric' behavior -- that's the same sort of thinking that once condemned homosexuality and transgenderism and coprophilia and voluntary cannibalism, all of which are simply perfetly valid lifestyle choices and no worse than any other." From the Right: "Just because someone has been walking down the street screaming about killing all the Jews, and accumulating a stockpile of rifles and ammunition ... is no reason to do anything. They have committed no crime, and we have free speech and the Second Amendment. So leave them alone".

    So probably nothing will be done. But there's a bright side: here is a wonderful opportunity for a clever entrepreneur to start a new trend in fashion: bullet-proof (well, pistol-bullet-proof) 'soft' armor, as an integral part of men and women's clothing.
     
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    These in Atomwaffen are white nationalists racists bent on starting a race war,they are far right like those who marched at Charlottesville that Dirty Donald described as "good people".
     
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    Pro-Trump. Anti-government. Pro-2A. Anti-Mexican.
     
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    Not true and has been debunked a dozen times in a several threads. If you have to embellish and take a person out of context you offer nothing but propaganda..
     
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    Hardly sounds like Republican to me :)

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    I would think these acts reflect more like leftist ;)
     
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    In the unlikely event that anti-gun fanatics ever succeed in eliminating modern manufactured firearms and ammunition, firearms will remain available for criminals and become far more deadly as DIY manufacturing expands.
     
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    That's the logical outcome.. But no one has ever accused the Left of logic or forethought!
     
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    The USSR under Lenin's NEP restored private property rights. Socialist China is more capitalistic than the US.

    The NSDAP drew much of its membership from the older socialist parties.

    "And it was not only workers in 'low tech' industrial regions where firms were small and widely scattered and where the socialist activists had trouble finding a foothold but also among onetime Social Democrats who found the Nazi invocation of the Volksgemeinschaft attractive. Recent research has shown that nearly one-third of Nazi members and Nazi voters were workers, many of them industrial workers. In the 1932 elections the Nazis made significant inroads into the Social Democratic camp - one of every ten Nazi voters in the summer was an ex Social Democrat ... How do we make sense of the surprisingly large working class vote for the Nazis, which until recently scholars have simply missed?" Peter Fritzsche, "Germans into Nazis," Harvard University Press, Cambridge Mass., 1998 p. 201, 202.
     
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    Revisionism...Quoting President Trump..."Very fine people on both sides."
    But I'm pretty sure Trump was not referring to Antifa.
    Pretty sure he wasn't referring to the tiki torchers, who seem to be sedo leftist nationalist socialist.
    I think they are called neo-nazis like how some liberals with in the GOP are referred to as neo-conservatives.

    In Context: Donald Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks (transcript)
    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...t-trumps-very-fine-people-both-sides-remarks/
     
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    Mass shootings will not be a problem as soon as about half of Americans are carrying concealed handguns.
     
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    The NSDAP's primary political opponents WERE socialists. And, again, your argument might hold some water if we are talking about the party before Hitler took charge of it. Afterward, not so much. Hitler had the party abandon socialism and he exiled the socialist wing and/or had them murdered during the Night of the Long Knives. Hitler was outraged by the very "inroads" you are talking about.
     
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    There is really little difference between them, they both use hatred to achieve their political goals.
     
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    Trump never referred to the NAZIS in Charlottesville as "good people".
     
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    Not really, just the ones who are illegally and don't belong in this country.
     
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    Not according to the GCA's.
     
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    All right, "very fine people on both sides"????Same difference???
     

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