Sen. Tim Kaine: "The United States didn't inherit slavery from anybody. We created it."

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Europeans did not enslave the black Africans they were enslaved by black Africans who then sold them to others.
     
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    You might has well have used the word boy. It must be hard for you to self edit like this...
     
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    That is probably true since the Portuguese already had .2-3 colonies in Africa to get slaves from. But 1520 +or - wow that does sound early. Hmmmm and only 28 years after Columbuso opened up the Carribean and Central America to the Spanish the Portuguese needed to outflank the Spaniards.

    PS EDIT I just checked the date for the first African slaves is noted as "around mid century" 15 hundreds. It seems that the Portuguese used indigenous people of "Brazil" as a stop-gap plan. The "Brazilian" tribes were already enslaving each other so the Portuguese just joined in the fun fest.
     
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    So are you saying Southern Republicans were all for the CRA and VRA.
     
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    Actually the top dogs went to the Republican party after the CRA and VRA passed.
     
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    How many folks do you think fill out the census?
     
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    everyone household in the in the united states if you don’t then you have no reason to complain
     
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    Speaking of stereotyping, it seems you do that with the usual right-wing tropes like Democratic "pandering", as apposed to what, GOP's ignoring and tolerating animosity to the black community. Democrats insure "votes and poverty". Democrats call out racism but you can't see it? I wonder why. Racist liberals insure bad education, crime and handouts. Is that what you mean by stereotyping? Rhetoric without proof.

    Then there is Trump's "achievements". Employment has had a steady trend up before Trump, which he takes credit for and has tried to sabotage with tariffs, but that aside, the black community still has twice the unemployment rate as the white community. Many of the jobs are low pay. With a full time Walmart job at $11 dollars an hour you can afford $550 a month rent. Where can you afford to live, per you, "inner city cesspools". The bipartisan First Step Act were measures blocked by the GOP during the Obama administration. Trump's opportunity zones are opportunity for some. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/31/business/tax-opportunity-zones.html
     
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    Actually I said those who support and vote for Trump.
    Who are they reporting to?

     
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    Why not, you pay taxes like everyone elae.
     
  11. struth

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    nah Eastland, Talmadge, Byrd, Biden all remained loyal and loved dems
     
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    you can’t really complain about not getting counted when you don’t count yourself.
     
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    So how are they counted as single mothers?
     
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    that’s why they got to do the census
     
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    There may not be systemic 'racism' in the U.S., but there is certainly a system of stupidity.
    At some point, reason and intelligence became discouraged and certainly not taught or encouraged in school.
     
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    Right, so if they don't how do they know they are single mothers?
     
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    they don’t.! if single mothers ignore the basic things they are suppose to do like that then they won’t get counted
     
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    dont try and curry favour with me boy.

    as for my claim, yes its my claim cuz it actually happened lol. it is up to you to prove that the industrial revolution would have happened without slavery but alas its impossible to do so because it did actually happen
     
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    europeans, americans, whites whatever you wish to call them, they did that. stop being contrary.
     
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    man up
     
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    The only reason there was slavery coming from Africa is because when the tribes went to war with each other, they sold the people they captured from the other tribe to the highest bidder instead of putting them to death. Your own people sold you into slavery. Get reparations from them.

    Ya'all were a sleep during history class. African tribes were generally in a perpetual war with each other over territory, hunting grounds and other resources. When the warriors did battle one tribe (the one winning the battle) usually captured warriors from the opposing tribe. They would make slave labor out of the other tribes captives, the ones that weren't needed were typically put to death. When the slave traders showed up, the tribes stopped killing the excess captives and started trading them for things like blankets, wax candles, oil lamps and the oil to run them, fire water, pre made bows and arrows and food.

    Think for a second, most slave ships carried a crew of 50 or less. African tribes of the time typically numbered from several hundred to several thousand, there was safety in numbers. The slave ship crews were armed with one shot flintlock pistols, one or two per man. A good man with one of these pistols could fire three rounds a MINUTE , the procedure to reload them is slow. I'm sure there were cannons and rifles aboard the ship. Assuming they would leave 10 crew to protect the ship from pirates. 40 guys with single shot pistols would be quickly overwhelmed by several hundred battle experienced warriors with spears, clubs and knives. So I highly doubt they were able to steal the tribe members for long before the warriors would be waiting to let 'em have it.
     
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    what has that got to do with there being no race based slavery in egypt since both parties were black?
     
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    the portuguese trafficked ppl across the globe into an alien environment to work their plantations, a big difference to native americans capturing pow's but dont let that little factoid distort your goldfish bowl view
     
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    Its easy being brave over a keyboard.. Do you feel like man insulting people with no consequences?
     
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    A Slave is a Slave you trying to make one better then the other due to your need to hate white people is disgusting.

    Again their is slavery in Africa NOW and you seem to not give a damn.. I wonder why...... Poor NOI....
     
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