SENIOR HAMAS OFFICIAL : WE WILL CLEANSE PALESTINE OF THE FILTH OF THE JEWS

with what?

 

yup. You also can pick up some opinions on the site of stormfront.

 

I'm not making any claims
Making sh-t up again, I see.


I didn't write the religion,
I just read it.

 

I don't go there.

However I will point out, many quotes I use, are probably also in every so-called Islam hating site.

But I can assure you neither they, nor I, wrote the original.

 

and seem to suggest to give it your personal interpretation of it.

 

I don't make intrepations.
I just read what is written.

Now, someone who only reads the Qur'an has to rely on his cleric to explain what he just read.
However much of what is in the Qur'an, is explained in depth in the Sunnah.
If you never read the Sunnah, you are at the mercy of whoever tells you what you just read.

Most Muslims don't even know the correct way to read the Qur'an, to understand what can be understood.

 

If you can't remember your own posts, I can't help you.

 

As I noted... I am well aware of the army of Islamophobes who pick 1 line... just 1 line,... out of an entire book, and pretend there is no such thing as context.

And that aint true. They wrote text like 2000BC. We found so much text, that we lost count how much we found.

 

Total Fail.
Other cultures wrote documents, but not Muslims.
China and India go back further than that.

 

And than you give it your interpretation of how to read it of what you think you know from the Sunnah.

huff and puff. lol

 

They don't even know for sure where Islam started.
Most say around the Bagdad area in the 9th century.

Islam says different, In fact, Allah taught Adam to read.
The Arabic language existed before man.

 

you fail... horrible.
This is about "What do you know about Arabia 400 years before Muhammed?"....
You replied "all the people were illiterate and nothing was written down"

And there were people who were writing down plenty of things.
That you suddenly narrow this down to just Muslims, while there weren't any Muslims 400 years before Mohammed....
Oh what a childish way to move a goalpost.

 

No I don't.

I'll give you a chance to prove yourself.

Tell me the correct way to read the Qur'an, to understand what can be understood,

 

Read the friggin post.

I was talking about the Mecca area, and yes, they were all illiterate.

Don't change what I said.

Do I have to copy the whole post.

 

Yes you do. lol

"much of what is in the Qur'an, is explained in depth in the Sunnah."

So your home schooled amateur interpretation of the Quran relies on your understanding of the Sunnah.

You are talking about supposedly illiterate Muslims 400 years before Mohammed....
There were no Muslims in them days -that's a fail on your side-
while plenty of people were writing things down in them days. -an other fail-
We know this,... the freaking Romans were there! -3rd fail-
They just didn't write a thing about Mecca. Nobody did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecca#Early_history

 

LOLOL

Dude, The romans never went to Mecca.
Nobody was there prior 400 AD. It was a desolate settlement,
The Jurriam were the first there.
Little vegetation or water. Many miles off the trade routes, through a desert.

and you have a problem with interpretations.

I don't make interpretations, I read what's written.

so you aren't answering the correct way to read the Qur'an.

 

You don't even read what you post.
BTW, an excuse by muslims,(Not any more) was Mecca was a famous trading post.


The early history of Mecca is still largely disputed, as there are no unambiguous references to it in ancient literature prior to the rise of Islam.[33] The Roman Empire took control of part of the Hejaz in 106 CE,[34] ruling cities such as Hegra (now known as Mada'in Saleh), located to the north of Mecca. Even though detailed descriptions were established of Western Arabia by Rome, such as by Procopius, there are no references of a pilgrimage and trading outpost such as Mecca.[35] The first direct mention of Mecca in external literature occurs in 741 CE, in the Byzantine-Arab Chronicle, though here the author places it in Mesopotamia rather than the Hejaz.[35]

Given the inhospitable environment[36] and lack of historical references in Roman, Persian and Indian sources, historians including Patricia Crone and Tom Holland have cast doubt on the claim that Mecca was a major historical trading outpost.[36][37]

 

Really? Text or clay tablets?

 

much early history is in pictorial writing, a predecessor to an alphabet.
These in many cases are impossible to translate,
Hindu is in cuneiform on clay tablets, much in a language still used today.
when the written languages were developed, the vocabulary was small and words in their life,
were different than the more descriptive ones we have now.

 

Greek Historian Diodorus Siculus mention mecca and the Kaaba as ””And a temple has been set up there, which is very holy and exceedingly revered by all Arabians” ,this mention comes around 30 -50 BC.

 

Show me.

Nobody went there at that time.
The name Mecca did not exist.

Diodorus Siculus The Greek historian Diodorus Siculus is believed to have mentioned the Kaabah in 60–30 BC while describing the coast of Jeddah.

Mecca was through a desert way off the trade route.
Now I am curious about his actual works, because it is not mentioned anywhere else, and the kicker is ( Believed to be), hmm, believed by who.

The Kaab'as were in all the marketplaces, not just mecca.
This is the rock God era.

 

You haven't been to Petra or Madain Saleh , have you?

 

No I haven't
If you were at Mecca, first you were obviously a muslim or pretending to be.
Now picture yourself without a car, walking there.


Petra is a place that always fascinated me, however, nobody knows who, or how, they built it, and was inherited by the people who first claimed it.

It's only partially evacuated.

 

There were Kaaba elsewhere.. but the by the 3rd millennium BC, the site of Al-Hijr had already been settled by the tribe of Thamud.

Most nomadic tribes carried their gods from place to place in a box on a litter.. and these gods were often meteorites of pieces of meteorites.

 

I have done a lot of hiking and camping in the Arabian desert mostly in the winter months.

Episcopalians don't got to Mecca.. but most American expats go to Petra and Madain Saleh.

There were several trade routes ..up both coasts by camel caravan from Yemen and by dhows up both coasts... and from Dilmun to the Indus Valley. Lots of clay tablet records in Dilmun documenting business transactions with Babylon... and recording the myths that predate Genesis.

They traded with Egypt and across the Bab al Mandab with East Africa.