"September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor"

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  1. Brother Jonathan

    Brother Jonathan Banned

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    If you still believe the "official story" about 9/11 you owe it to yourself to try and answer the 50 questions raised in these films.
    Don't be the last to know the truth about 9/11.

    [video=youtube;O1GCeuSr3Mk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1GCeuSr3Mk[/video]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1GCeuSr3Mk

    [video=youtube;K7mDXHn_byA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7mDXHn_byA[/video]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7mDXHn_byA

    [video=youtube;DegLpgJmFL8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DegLpgJmFL8[/video]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DegLpgJmFL8

    First Responder David Miller died from lung disease in 2010. Many 9/11 first responders are suffering and dying from the asbestos and other chemicals they inhaled that day. Before he died David Miller said to the 9/11 truth movement, "Avenge us"

    RIP David. We will get the truth told.
     
  2. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Suuuuuuuuuure he did......troothers are so dishonest they misconstrue what was said about the 'new pearl harbor' comment,and ask totally irrelevant 'questions'
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The 9-11 Trough Movement is a joke.

    That's why its failing soo miserably and getting soo small.


    The real experts agree that there were no explosives in the WTC.
     
  4. Hannibal

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    I'm not sitting through 5 hours of 'truther' propaganda based on strawman arguments.
    Ask your questions yourself and debate them rationally.
     
  5. Brother Jonathan

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    Go to 1:23:50 in the last video and listen to First Responder David Miller for yourself just four years before he died. The asbestos fibers in the twin towers were in the WTC dust.

    This is the last question they ask.
     
  6. Hannibal

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    If there were solid evidence, I would lead the call for full accountability.
     
  7. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    They've had 12 years...still waiting....
     
  8. Brother Jonathan

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    The rest of us aren't waiting. We are exposing both the mass murder crime and the cover up. You really should watch the videos in the OP. You might learn something valuable.
     
  9. Brother Jonathan

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    You can't lead the movement because the Truthers have been leading the movement for 12 years now in the face of constant ridicule. You are a follower. The truthers have been telling the truth all along.

    The videos in the OP thoroughly debunk the professional debunkers (Craig Shirley, Paolo Attivissimo, CICAP, Jerome Quirant, Popular Mechanics, Jim Meigs, and Michael Shermer, et al) are all thoroughly debunked. I don't know if they understand how serious the crime to cover up conspiracy to commit mass murder, but ignorance of the law is not a defense.
     
  10. Hannibal

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    Yeah, you are still waiting. Waiting for someone else to bring the lawsuit, waiting for someone else to launch an independent investigation, waiting for someone to make yet another propaganda video, or host another circle jerk false hearing to slobber over.

    What actions have you personally taken?

    - - - Updated - - -

    I can't lead the movement because A) there's no credible evidence of government conspiracy and B) there is no movement.
     
  11. Brother Jonathan

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    Obviously you deny the evidence presented in the OP. You are like NIST. NIST didn't find explosives because they didn't look. You don't see the evidence of conspiracy by rogue members of government because you don't look. You ignore all the evidence and then claim that it doesn't exist.
     
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    I've looked. It ain't there.
     
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    You presented no evidence in the OP to look at.

    There was no evidence of explisives for NIST to look at.

    No one is ignoring evidence because none exists.
     
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    You're exposing nothing but your inadequacy...
     
  15. Brother Jonathan

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    Are the questions they asked too tough for you to answer?

    I agree. There was no evidence of explisives. However, there was a lot of evidence of explosives. NIST should have looked for explosives. Lateral movement of steel, concrete, and body parts is glaringly obvious evidence for explosives. If the buildings would have simply collapsed then human bodies would have been found mangled not disintegrated. In a collapse body parts would not have been found on the roof of the Deutsche Bank. There was plenty of evidence of explosives being used on 9/11 WTC buildings. NIST should have looked for explosives.

    The people who take the time to watch the videos in the OP will see plenty of evidence and they will see who was behind the attacks and who is covering up the conspiracy to mass murder not only of Americans in NYC but American soldiers and millions of innocent people around the world.
     
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    How odd....they placed explosives at the very floors that the jets hit,which started fires,that miraculously didn't set off the charges that were supposedly 'planted'...and your whine that the NIST wasn't 'looking for explosives' won't wash....they aren't stupid,they have eyes
     
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    Questions are not evidence you have never presented any evidence.

    There never was and still is NO evidence of explosives for NIST to look at.

    The films offer no evidence whatsoever you simply lie about them and that is a fact.
     
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    BJ posts videos he's already posted 100 times before. Are we convinced yet? Nope. Just spam.
     
  19. Scott

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    The evidence in those videos is so overwhelming that whether the government was behind it is no longer an issue. The only remaining issue is whether the people are going to look at the evidence or not and whether they go into denial after having looked at it or not.

    People who watch the videos and still maintain the government wasn't behind it should watch this video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xzmprkpxac
    (Why Can't They See The Truth? Psychologists Help 9 11 Truth Deniers--YouTube)

    This video explains the government's motives.
    http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/new-american-century/


    If you say there's no evidence that the government did it, how do you explain the manipulation of the video that's explained in part two between the 18:29 and 23:40 time marks.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7mDXHn_byA

    It's pretty clear that the craft that hit the Pentagon was too short to be a 757.
    http://0911.voila.net/index4.htm
    (5th picture from top)

    That's why they had to doctor the video.

    This one piece of proof closes the whole case by itself. There's a lot more proof in those videos and I urge the viewers not to be swayed by rhetoric and withhold judgement until they've watched the videos.
     
  20. Quantumhead

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    No you haven't. Every time anybody posts any evidence you ignore it.
     
  21. Quantumhead

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    There are quite a few researchers actually looking at which specific individuals at the American end the existing evidence implicates. Kevin Ryan is leading this particular charge. Obviously there are Cheney and Rumsfeld, which will come as no surprise to most, but also some less well known names. Among them is ex-NYC cop Bernard Kerik, and also L. Paul Bremer. Looking at Bremer is particularly interesting, because he worked for Marsh & Mclennan, which occupied precisely those floors in the north tower which were impacted by the plane. He was scheduled to arrive for a meeting that morning, but didn't turn up. With everyone he had previously worked with dead, by 12.30 pm, L. Paul Bremer was on national TV already laying the groundwork for the lie by claiming it was probable that Osama bin Laden was responsible. He went on to become the governor of Iraq after the 2003 invasion. If you get a chance to read Ryan's research, he lays out a very strong case implicating Bremer.
     
  22. Hannibal

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    Yes, I have.

    Tell you what: choose what you consider to be the single strongest piece of evidence from the OP videos. Post the time stamp to that evidence. We'll discuss the merits and credibility of that evidence.

    Go for it.
     
  23. Scott

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    No one has posted any evidence.

    These videos are fictional and state some opinion but never provide evidence.
     
  25. Quantumhead

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    No, you haven't. Every time you are confronted with evidence you either ignore it or claim it isn't real. You do not even look at it.

    Don't need to because you're lying. You have not and will not acknowledge the evidence. Even if I sat here posting links until doomsday.

    Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani Foreign Secretary, was told by senior American officials in mid-July (2001) that military action against Afghanistan would go ahead by the middle of October.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1550366.stm
     

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