Seriously... this is heartwrenching. All politics aside, everybody needs to listen to this.

So is this codified into law somewhere, or just how you think it should work?

 

Consequences for you. Not for your children.

I say again to you and for the last time: entering the United States without a Visa is a misdemeanor. Separating the children from their parents is a violation of their 8th Amendment rights. And it is despicable. And Trump supporters trying to excuse the unconstitutionality and immorality is definite evidence that the Republican Party has become a Cult to Trump.

If the government is unable to build facilities to lodge both parents and children, the Constitution and human morals demands that they stop this practice until they can.

Other than that, there is not much more to say. Definitely nothing that would disturb any cultist who has lost all sense of morality.

 

You want me to do Trump's job? Sure... Give me a $400 K salary and I'll fix this in no time.

Normally I would say I'm not qualified to be President. But compared to Trump even a 9 year old would seem like a combination of Obama an Reagan.

You guys don't know how "cute and gullible" you appear when you repeat Hannity and Rush talking points without taking even a few seconds to ponder if they are not completely idiotic.

 

Trump wasn't. At least not yet. I'm pretty sure he will, though.

 

Is that why they are putting children in cages?

 

You know why, just like I know why. Just more hypocrisy driven by blind partisanship. No need to say more.

 

The Obama admin only detained unaccompanied minors for a short time.

Your hero is deliberately creating unaccompanied minors by ripping them from their parents, and then holding them hostage indefinitely for political gain.

It's highly dishonest of you to pretend the two policies are the same. We will correctly point that out, and point out that you're running cover for Trump's indefensible policies, indicating your approval of such policies.

Why can't you just be honest and admit Trump's policies are evil and unacceptable? Is your blind party devotion really that strong? If you can't renounce Trump for this, you deserve the electoral beating you're going to get over it, and we feel no guilt over maximizing that beating.

And yes, we did criticize Obama's immigration policies. Not with screaming hysteria, but that's not our style. It was another area where he was far too conservative. That was Obama's biggest problem all around, thinking that cooperating with Republicans on policy would bring good results. It never did.

 

This is really a silly take on this recording. I have heard children cry like this when they do not get candy.....it is sad this is being used as a political issue. Congress needs to pass a law to secure the border. This will fix it.

 

You mean why keeping people safe is relevant? Not to a Trump cultist, I'm sure. But it is a matter of human rights.

 

You asked us to listen to a tape as if it were the worst thing we ever heard, when in fact it was indistinguishable from the first day of kindergarten. I too had my phone number memorized when I went to Kindergarten, and I too cried my eyes out. The actual tape itself reveals basically nothing. If your goal is to have a legitimate discussion about the overall topic, then discuss the actual topic. You dont have to hide behind the façade of over exaggerated emotion, which is precisely what you are doing.

Those exact same camps and facilities also existed during Obamas term. Those facilities were not built during Trumps tenure.There were crying kids then as well. Its strange how that never received around the clock coverage at that time. While it received a few mentions, it was presented in a more balanced manner that took into account the overall complexity of the entire issue. I highly doubt that you dedicated several days of your posts in here to the topic at that time. Its funny how things change on the same issue when the MSM ( and you) dont like the person in charge. You probably never have really delved into the underlying issue all that deeply, but when you heard about the facilities during Obamas tenure you reflexively believed that since Obama is doing it, he must have no alternative, and when Trump does it, you reflexively believe that its because he is a heartless monster. You see, you arent deriving anything new about both men because of these camps, you are merely reflecting your preconceived notions about both men.

I remember hearing about those facilities during Obamas term, and I did not make a big deal out of it then. It is mildly troublesome to hear kids crying, but how many times do you think they cried during their 1000 mile journey through 100 degree temps with minimal food and water? If I am going to be outraged because they are crying, most of that outrage is directed at the parents who would do such a thing ( to say nothing of the many kids that are unaccompanied). In truth, once they are processed, given PROPER food and water, and plopped in front of a TV to watch Disney shows, that is likely the safest and most content those poor children have been in months if not years. If those kids are going to be scarred for life, it is undoubtedly going to be because of their lack of proper nutrition and horrific journey, its most certainly NOT going to be because they spent a couple weeks in a US summer camp. You really need to develop a sense of perspective. I am now hearing about this subject again, and my reaction is the same. The question I would have for you is what is causing YOUR disparate reactions to the same issue?

 

Somehow the left is incensed about this at this particular point (and not the decade before) just in time before a 2018 election where democrats have vowed not to pass any Republican legislation to fix the issue. Just sayin.

 

Hey, you Lefties are the ones that want the little kids in an adult prison. Try owning all aspects of your position one of these days.

 

So what do you propose be done with the children of adults who illegally drag their children across the border and are being held in detention waiting for their administrative hearing to determine their immigration status? The old system of "catch and release" obviously was not working because illegal aliens almost never appear in immigration court once they are released into society.

The first offense for unauthorized entry of any kind is a misdemeanor. Fines, jail time, and deportation are the typical remedies.

Children are separated from their parents all the time when they go to prison. There is no constitutional right to be imprisoned with your family. The Blogojevich children were separated from their dad, for example, when he went to prison for selling barack Obama's senate seat. Why are you only now expressing your misplaced outrage?

You can clutch all the pearls you want. Doesn't change the fact that the law is finally being followed by an administration who promised the American people it would be the first to take action to repair our broken borders.

 

Oh, I didn't know President Trump was charged. Surely you can post a citation.

 

Wake up! We're not talking about unaccompanied children. We're talking about children who come accompanied by their family and are separated because of a Trump policy.

 

The parents put the child in this position.

 

Oh, I have seen children killed in Nam long ago, so this does not bother me in the least. What bothers me is the wailing and crying of parents who are holding their dead child in their arms.

We have american children taken away from their parents everyday, 365 days a year in america, when a parent is caught breaking the law. Should I also feel bad about this? I feel anger at the irresponsibility of the parents who break the law, who allowed this to happen to their kids! Call me cold hearted rational. I am angry at the right people, not the wrong people.

The blame belongs on the parent who breaks the law and enters into america. We do not have the facilities in enough numbers to keep parents and children together, so if you want it changed call your legislator and demand that they spend the money on this. And then also change the laws so that this is the way that we do it. Otherwise you are wasting your time and really do not care about those kids separated from their parents, because our our immigration policy and laws.

 

So, are we not acting under present law? Change the law, instead of ignoring the law. We have ignored it for far too long. And it insures we get more of these instances.

Is trump breaking immigration law? Or just enforcing it?

 

Not unacceptable nor evil. Not like we keep these kids like we do Gitmo detainees. Enforcing laws is not always nice nor pretty. It causes hardships with americans each and everyday. We don't stop enforcing laws because of those hardships. Is trump breaking the law? Or doing his job and enforcing existing law? Tell us.

 

Yes, Virginia, parents who are arrested are separated from their children. Are you really shocked and surprised?
Stop pretending.

 

wnd? Got something that is credible?

 

I was referring to the real world. You know... the one where cheating and stealing is done for profit. Millions of people "cheating and stealing" is only an end in of itself in wingnut la la land. For example: Trump cheats and steals because it's profitable. Not because it's "fun"

 

Because it violates the people's right to seek asylum.

 

No. I'm asking the poster if they have ever heard of "sicarios".

However, it's yet another clear indicator of the way your "logic" (or, actually, lack thereoff) works that you would draw such conclusion from that question.

 

If they're not being persecuted, they are not granted asylum. That's fine so long as the family stays together. What is your point?

If you have a point, you can do it yourself. Make sure you have a point, though. This post appears to not have one.

Avengers? It was OK. Weird ending. Why? Are you planning on killing half the Mexicans to save the others, or what?

One more time: Do you have a point?