Seriously... this is heartwrenching. All politics aside, everybody needs to listen to this.

Your malady (TDS) has no bearing on whether or not illegal immigrants who sneak into the country who are not seeking Asylum should be arrested or not.

I say they should they are committing crimes it is a gift from us to prosecute them and not just stick them on a ship and send them back.

All of that legal system that we use to piddle with people who have no rights under our constitution to a fair trial jailing them making sure their children are fed and housed is all a gift. That is stealing from the taxpayer. At sooner just pay for some military at the border with rifles then to hold trials in jail them and provide for their children.

If you do not want families separated you would support that.

But that's not what you care about what you care about is illegal immigration being permitted so you can have your slave class.

 

It bleats about owning chit after writing this at me?

lol.

 

He wants to blame Trump.

Because Trump Hitler Nazi reeee reeeee REEEEEEEEEEE!

And other autistic screeching. Really though that's an insult to people with autism. It's more like Petty fit throwing.

 

You mean refugee status, not asylum. And it's not a right -- it is a privilege. And the privilege can be taken away -- and should if these people continue to abuse the system. In order to qualify, they must meet the legal definition of a refugee, and only if they present themselves at a lawful port of entry. Posting a NO TRESPASSING sign in areas not proximal to lawful ports of entry and warning people that they are subject to arrest and separation from their children in no way impedes the refugee process. Asylum is for people already present in the country.

 

Doesn't matter to you how many times this has been debunked, right?

Another characteristic of a cult: Followers are taught an alternative reality, and facts will not sway them. Reality is meaningless compared to the word of the cult leader.

 

Debunked?

Ok. Go ahead and present your evidence. Let's see what you've got. I mean I already know but I'm going to enjoy this.

 

You said: "No! They are not perfectly safe in Mexico. Ever heard of "sicarios"?"

Implying that the US taking in refugees and/or illegal aliens keeps them safe from the sicarios. Logic: You made a claim ("they are not safe") and offered evidence in support of your position ("sicarios"). Did I get that wrong?

 

Yes. It's codified in Asylum laws.

 

Seriously... this is heartwrenching. All politics aside, everybody needs to listen to this.

POLITICS
06/25/2014 09:22 pm ET Updated Jun 26, 2014
Deportation Separated Thousands Of U.S.-Born Children From Parents In 2013

 

Obviously you voted against President Obama's re-election for what he was doing to children and would never, ever vote Democrat against after what he did to all those children and parents.

So how much money have YOU sent now for your wrenched heart?

 

So you don't know the difference between a child crying out of the horror of being separated from their parents to one who cries because they are a spoiled brat.

If you still don't have children of your own: don't. You're not ready. If you do, I sure hope your significant-other has better parenting skills than yours.

 

Nah, I knew he was a moron from the first stammering speech I suffered thru!

Taxes, A LOT!

 

Do you object to US parents being detained by law enforcement having to be separated from their children? If not why not?

 

If you have children DON'T VIOLATE THE LAW.

 

This is sympathy masturbation. The people who feel sorry for these kids are the same people who were crying when Bourdain died last week, and the same people who were crying when they watched Parkland students complain on TV before that. Fickle, superficial people who don't give a **** about the people suffering in their family, among their friends, in their community. Watching a TV screen requires zero effort or true empathy. You must live a pretty sheltered life if you think little Pedro having a few bad months at a facility because his parents broke the law is the worst that can happen to someone.

 

Hey, you Lefties are the ones shrieking that you don't want the kids in those "Nazi concentration camps". Ah, the pictures of kids in cages are from the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. Things are a lot different from what exists in your fevered brow.

 

Up, grow.

Rearrange for psychological prizes!

 

The truth is out there, grasshopper, but you must seek it out. It will not be found in the dark posterior of Rachel Maddow no matter how far in you thrust your head.

 

You seem like a sad person, chuck. You should seek counsel before those tall buildings begin speaking to you.

 

^
The law is the law!
Little Pedro is just going to have to suck it up!

 

You went to a lousy kindergarten. Both in mine (over half a century ago) and in my children's, parents were allowed to stay for a while on the first days. And, of course they got to meet their teacher ahead of time, look at the school, the classroom, where we would pick them up, ... There was still some whimpering, but.... it was quickly managed by a professional, expert n her field, instead of an immigration officer.

So no wonder this doesn't move you. Lack of empathy has been known to occur in children who have suffered a traumatic experience. Probably like the one you suffered in your first days of Kindergarten. And it stays with them all their life. Interesting...

The "actual topic" is children being unnecessarily traumatized by an idiotic policy. Emotion is the actual topic. What else did you think it was? Didn't you read the title? The words "All politics aside" did clearly explain this. I now understand that emotion is foreign to you. I even understand why. But most human beings do understand empathy.

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This isn't about the camps. It's about the separation of children from their family.

Maybe because back then every effort was made to avoid it. While now, there is actually a policy meant to produce this on purpose. I don't know if your lack of empathy problem allows you to visualize the difference. but there is one. It's somewhat similar to the difference between an airplane dropping to the ground by accident, and one being driven to the ground on purpose. Do you also not perceive the difference between these two?

I had no idea that an event in your childhood like being separated from your parents could be this life-altering as it has been to you. I knew it was bad, but you've made it clear that it's worse than I thought.

I profusely criticized Obama for sending bus-loads of immigrants out for deportation, if that's what you are referring to. He did it because Republicans promised Immigration reform in exchange. And then they stabbed him in the back. I believe he was gullible for believing in known liars like Mitch McConell

Word pf adviice: one way to not ridicule yourself is to not assume that your own shortcomings are mine. I did very much follow Obama's immigration policy. There were things over which he had no alternative, there were other in which he did. I criticized him for the latter. Just like I criticized him for many things I disagreed with. I criticized him for Gadafi, for not going far enough on healthcare, for trying to bring Republcans on board with many of his policies when it was clear that they were only stalling, for not acting fast enough on gun control, for not acting on the crimes of his predecessor (especially Cheney) ... I could go on and on....

So no. There is no equivalence in myself or on anyone I know to your Trump idolatry.

Unfortunately, I don't think I am capable of explaining in words to somebody like you who has lost their sense of empathy due to a childhood trauma, the difference between a 2 year-old crying because they're hungry and one crying because they feel alone and, unprotected because they were ripped from their parents by force. I have seen several like you making this "Disney movie" argument. I'm sure all of you got it from Hannity or some other of those right-wing pundits who are also devoid of empathy like you.

Just trust me. In most normal children, no amount of Disney shows will substitute the feeling of forcefully losing their parents of children

It's called "empathy" A feeling that is foreign to you, but it's very real to those of us who did not go through the type of traumatizing experience like yours.

 

Optics over substance, the standard leftist tactic.

 

citation plz

 

You mean abusing innocent children isn't substantive? Standard rightist tactic, and a disgusting one at that.

 

Here is a convenient place to find all international law covering refugees and asylum seekers (since some people think they are different - go figger)

https://ijrcenter.org/refugee-law/

Amazing thing this internet. You can find all kinds of stuff out easily, without having to ask or play stupid.