Shark attacks in NC waters

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  1. Jack Links

    Jack Links Well-Known Member

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    Glad you acknowledge the dangers of psychological subversion.
    Sorry, I don't buy it. You knew what I meant.
    Wow! Calling Steve Irwin foolish. Amazing.
    Keep playing Russian roulette.
    You are not qualified to make that statement.
    For the defense of humans over animals, U.S. residents over illegal invaders, yes.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    No, I didn't. When I read devil ray, I think devil ray, I don't think stingray. As I said I'm not psychic.

    He was. I loved watching his show, but part of that was that he did stupid things. He was very foolish and reckless dealing with dangerous wild animals. It's what made him entertaining, but it also killed him.

    Nope, I will just keep being cautious.

    Of course I am, or at the least, I'm more qualified than you. I have a master's degree in marine biology, and know enough to know that you can't eliminate jellyfish without destroying the rest of the ocean, at least with current technology.

    Big government solutions for local problems. The Navy is not meant to defend against animals. In fact, they spend millions of dollars a year to reduce their impact on animals.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much impossible, although I guess technically, just improbable.

    Jellyfish are one of those critters that have flourished around humanity (i.e. like cockroaches, coyotes and racoons). In the Gulf of Mexico, we are having problems with too many jellyfish, and, not only that, but we are getting foreign jellyfish (from ship's ballasts) that were getting out of control. One theory is that all the artificial reefs/oil rigs/etc. that we put in the Gulf have given the jellyfish more hard surface for their polyp form larvae to live on.

    Here are some articles:
    https://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/jellyfish/textonly/locations_gulfmexico.jsp
    http://energyskeptic.com/2013/jellyfish-take-over-oceans/
    http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...swarms-caused-junk-Gulf-of-Mexico-5811847.php
    http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Environmental-stresses-cause-increase-in-5750277.php
    http://www.smithsonian.com/40th-anniversary/jellyfish-the-next-king-of-the-sea-679915/?page=1
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More likely it is the overfishing causing the shortfall of predators of jellyfish is why the explosion. I'd try one if it is batter, deep-fried and dipped in mayo.
     
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    I think it's a combination of three things--the human created hard substrates, overfishing of predators of the larva, and the increased nutrients in the water from the Mississippi river (gives the larva more food to survive). The key to all three is the conditions for the larva, not so much the adults.
     
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    Okay. I was speaking more globally. I think in Asian waters it is because Japan is destroying the ecosystem with overfishing.
     
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    That's not true. Liberals care far more about voters than any other life form
    on Earth. Their mantra is more akin to "kill anyone who doesn't vote Democrat."

    I'm glad we've solved the shark attack problem.
     
  8. perdidochas

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    The conservative solution is to let swimmers swim at their own risk, and not waste government money for nothing. We don't need the nanny government making the water safe for us. Sharks are migratory. Killing all the sharks in the area would do little or nothing to stop the attacks.
     
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    I am fairly certain Jack Links is trolling. It would be almost impossible for somebody to be so completely ignorant and opinionated and still have a day that entails more than going to the mall in a van with like minded individuals wearing red helmets.
     
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    I never said anything about catching them? Kill them.
     
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    Starting to wonder if someone is selling knock-off chinese sunblock on the beach that is made with dog's blood or something.

    Anyways, just close the beach to swimming until they go away.
     
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    You know nothing about sharks or the process of catching or killing them. The only reliable way to kill them is to first catch them on hook and line. The water around NC is murky (probably a contributing factor), and it's almost impossible to just kill sharks without catching them first.
     
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    Yesterday, I flew in a helicopter up the coast of Florida between Del Ray Beach and Palm Beach. Counted over 50 sharks within a few hundred feet of the beach. There were hundreds of bathers in the water. I could often see the shark and the bathers at the same time.

    If sharks were really interested in humans as food, there would have been 50 shark attacks on that coast line yesterday.

    There were none.

    End of story.
     
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    Well, looking at videos of the NC beaches, looks like the water is pretty murky, which increases shark attack chances. Most shark attacks are a case of mistaken identity.
     
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    Havn't read about these attacks off OBX, however the ones that took place about 2 weeks down around the NC/SC line were the fault of the swimmers. They clearly tell swimmers don't go out in the waters late afternoon/early evening and don't do so by the fishing piers. The 2 attacks down there the swimmers were out at those times and swimming by the fishing pier. Not smart.
     
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    I call late afternoon/early evening, "feeding time." I spend a lot of time on the water. I sometimes swim at 4 or 5 pm, and then all of a sudden get a feeling that something has changed. I realize that I'm picking up on some cue, that IMHO means it's feeding time, otherwise known as get out of the water time.
     
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    The sharks would probably get sick from all of the Libs' hatred. It's toxic, you know.
     
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    The beach has it's own dangers--like lifeguards' trucks.

    https://gma.yahoo.com/sunbathing-mo...le-seeks-110000563--abc-news-topstories.html#
    http://www.cbs8.com/story/15013093/sd-lifeguard-truck-runs-over-girl-in-pacific-beach
    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...r-by-Lifeguard-Truck-in-Venice-275285291.html
     
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    They are always that way. Virginia Beach is even worse.
     
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    Lets say someone has read your post about the hippo stat and happens to end up in the sea 20 feet from a great white.....17 ' 3000 lbs... and it is bearing down on him and had extended his jaw set toward him with a set of teeth that looks like a bear trap the size of the front-end of a 54 oldsmobile...you think that point about the hippo is going to give him much comfort at that moment?
     
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    Well, considering how few 17' 3000 lb white sharks there are (the world record sportfishing caught shark only weighed about 2700 lbs), that's not a likely situation. Regardless, the most danger you're in on a trip to the beach is the car ride back and forth from it. Sharks should be respected, but the likelihood of being attacked by one is small. I wonder how many people have been in the water in NC this last month? I bet in the tens of thousands, minimum.

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    Glad I live in the FL Panhandle then. Water that murky gives me the willies. (However, I still will swim in it......)
     
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    Night and day difference from the Atlantic side and the gulf side, even in Florida in my opinion. The mid-Atlantic also has a lot of rivers and such feeding into its coastline carrying sediment with them. Not quite as bad when you get out some, but nowhere near the clarity of like Panama City Beach's surf. The waters in the Gulf have always been gorgeous in comparison.
     
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