Shills??? MOD ALERT

nano thermitic mini nukes powered by space based hurricane generators.

You can tell because: contrails.

 

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/files/files/387.pdf

 

Maybe the explanation is much simpler than that.

[video=youtube;LhqUk28OwHs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhqUk28OwHs[/video]

 

Lol. Are you hand-waving away the source I posted?

 

lol are you not loling at the video source I posted?

Yes, I've read many an article attempting to diagnose the mindset of the CTer. Started many a thread on that very subject years ago, so what do you want me to say? Yes I agree?

 

A simple acknowledgement would be nice, yes, that there are shills, and that the government does employ them.

 

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Are you talking about this link:

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/files/files/387.pdf

Did you read it?

'cause it's not an "acknowledgement that there are shills and the government dos employ them."

Oh wait.

Did a shill change your link?

 

I feel like I am repeating myself here, but:

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/files/files/387.pdf

 

Nice, lets play semantics then, because that is all this is.

You ask for evidence, I offer the tactics used by shills, this doesn't count as physical evidence because you can't hold it.

But somehow, the measurement of the effects of gravity is physical evidence in your book.

How convenient for you!

 

How about this one?

Guy attacks my avatar, with zero substance to the post.

How many times do I have to predict ad hominem, and personal attacks?

I have had zero interaction with this poster in this thread, and this is his first post.

Nothing to see here folks, keep it moving.

 

Oh, so then something occuring can be considered evidence correct?

Well then, my evidence for shilling is the posting pattern and debate techniques used by certain posters showing a pattern of debate tactics used only on certain topics, and when pinned into a logic corner.

 

No, that's called your opinion, not evidence. I realize that's not an unknown commodity in the Truther community, but it behooves you to realize the difference before you attempt to use it as an argument.

Your gravity comparison might be one of the most disingenuous comparisons I've seen on the net in a long time. Well done.

 

The kernel you were trying to pull out was surrounded by a vast amount of popcorn dealing with the CTer mindset.

Next time, try and dig out the unpopped kernel so I don't have to eat the whole bag looking for it.

 

Explain how!

Newton predicted the rate an object will fall.

This is known as predictive evidence.

I am offering specific debate tactics that people can identify as tactics of a shill(predictive evidence) that not one of you "skeptics", have asked me to provide..........funny how that works

 

Will do, but it's been posted twice in this thread now...

So, can I get a more candid acknowledgement out of you?

 

Prove it with documented data then numbskull. So far, all you've pooped out is limited anecdotal "evidence" coupled with a disingenuous comparison. You can't hold it in your hand? Well jeezus what a convincing argument you've laid out. Someone call the Noble Society.

 

I agree with most of the vast majority of the thesis of that article concerning the CTer mindset. As I stated, I've seen many a similar article in the past on this subject. As to the shill thing, sure it happens but in this setting? Tempest, meet teapot. Based on the vast majority of "evidence" being tossed out by the Truther community, such an effort would be a complete waste of money.

 

Uh, I directly commented on your post. I'm a little saddened that you didn't acknowledge it. I thought it was quite possibly the dumbest thing ever. Gravity has been proven, you have been given the mathmatical equation for it, it's fact. You then compare that to the "tactics used by shills", and expect that to hold water. It doesn't, it's laughable and a disgrace to every community (truther included).

I don't know, they're easily predictable. If you make posts like that, expect a few jabs from people with knowledge. They're going to laugh at it. Comparing gravity to shills is hilarious. As far as the avatar thing, this isn't the first time I've commented on it. Watching Fang walk around you in circles regarding it made me laugh.

And? What does any of that have to do with the cost of tea? So only people that you have interacted with previously can state the ignorance in which you make posts? Sorry, the game doesn't play like that.

 

How exactly would you like me to provide this data?

Find post's from posters that I find using these tactics, and track them in a excel spread sheet?

I can provide you the list of tactics, whether you choose to learn them and identify them is up to you.

These are the tactics that I would like to once again point out, not one of you so called " skeptics" have asked me to provide, and the reason why is highlighted below!

http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

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4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

 

I read through half of that ridiculous list before I realized it wasn't the truther handbook. It's identical to every truthers argument I have ever seen.

 

17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

 

I believe this is the only one I've read. If you can, or are willing, would you mind linking to the others in which you have read previously?

Thank you.

Sure, there is likely exaggeration involved. I can readily see how people would take such an issue as this and run with it, and take it to extremes. But that doesn't mean that it isn't happening, or isn't likely to be occurring in places such as this.

Based off of what, and said by whom?

 

Gravity can be measured and quantified. To my knowledge there is no way to quantify the evidence for 'shills'. Again, arguing that there is an equivalence between a scientific theory and discourse about 9 11 is a logical fallacy. That being said, i do get the point you are trying to make. That being said i dont see how your rational for the existence of shills wouldnt preclude any other member of this forum who advocates a certain position with a high degree of fidelity from bring a party to some kind of cabal.

Pimptight, could you elaborate on the question you asked me about compartentalization. Im not exactly sure what you are getting at.

Jango, i would be curious to see what new paper article the pdf you linked was referencing. I couldnt find it but it could prove very relevant to this discussion.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/22/washington/22bloggers.html

 

This is relevant too: http://www.allgov.com/departments/d...ernational-information-programs?agencyid=7188